Kyrie is one of the best PGs in the NBA right now like Steph I hate to say it is ahead of Kyrie (even though Steph takes countless amount of L's) Russell Westbrook is the best PG right now don't kill me the man is a beast Kyrie number 2 I take back that Curry ahead thing still takes L's though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95AX7s0CUjA
Thank you for not saying people like mike conley and isaiah are better
Thank you @DaLegend24
Writing this comment pained me as a Celtics fan
You have witnessed first hand how good Kyrie is when he plays in games that actually matter
Kyrie: 21.0 PPG
isaiah: 17.6 PPG
BUT PER 36 MiN:
Kyrie: 22.2 PPG
isaiah: 21.6 PPG
That proved nothing
Kyrie is on a team with better scorers
Kyrie is the fourth best point guard in the league
On this site he is underrared
isaiahs better not conely
Kyrie is better than Isaiah, Conley, Wall, and Walker. It's hard between him and CP3 though.
CP3 has had a hall of fame career and Kyrie is a bright young star but I would take Uncle Drew because he has great potential and is much younger. Best handle since AI. They also have two different play styles so it is really difficult.
And can only score. CP3 has proven he can still play at mvp level in his 30's. His drop off should be mild at worst
Your a walking L, your favorite player is probally Ian Clark
Why you hating on my man In funny though
"He's underrated" You have mental problems
Isaiah is not anywhere close
im saying rn
Okay you can take isaiah since you a celtics fan. But kyrie kicks his ass everytime they play
2 years ago isaiah always played trash vs the cavs but this year hes been good
The cavs don't even try in the regular season. The grizz and Boston have seeds to fight for
Kyrie is only better at scoring tho
So what? Kyrie can score in any single way possible and according to statistics he is an above average defender in the playoffs.
Nigga its regular season why do you keep bringing up playoffs
the playoffs is when he actually tries.
Its regular seasons lists. What the fuck is wrong with you guys
the reason he is underrated is because he doesn't even try in regular season. If he played in the regular season like he did in the playoffs then he would be insane, breaking people and shit
Make a top 5 current point guards list
Because that's the only time we ever see kyrie actually play to his actually ability for a full game and he absolutely demolishes people.
Not like he went up against some elite defenders in the playoffs. Not to mention most defensive focus is prob on LeBron.
He did it throughout the whole playoffs?
Because that legit the only time he ever tries is in the playoffs. Isaiah and Mike Conley are by far the number one options where kyrie has 2 twenty point scorers on his team
"By far number 1 options"
Al Horford and Marc Gasol say hello
Horford has hardly played and regardless kyrie is better than mike Conley no matter what
You get mad at REGULAR SEASON lists and then bring up playoffs. That makes no sense, its for the 2017 season so far.
I got mad because you guys saying he's overrated when he's not.
He is overrated, maybe not on this site but in general
At my school it is. Lol. They say he's top 3
Um, no he's not. He's actually overrated. His defense has been terrible since he got drafted.
on this website he is badly
but irl hes is really ovverated
yes he is
no he isn't. most versatile scoring guard in the league
thats basically it
so what does isaiah do thats so special? all he does is score? he's shit on defense an he is like 5 9
Him being shorter makes it more impressive that he's good.
he's not as good as kyrie. we arent going to let him slide just cut he's short
Kyrie isn't better then Isaiah at ANYTHING except shooting
scoring inside.. they play about the same on defense. and the same rebounding.. so isaiah averages one more assist
Isaiah has a higher PER, higher TS%, higher WS, Higher VORP, higher BPM
And he never responded to actual stats lol
and is 6 inches shorter
Did I ever say isaiah was beter than kyrie
He is overrated
Your fucking stupid
Hell no he is not
On this site he is underrated
Isaiah Thomas is clearly better this year lmfao
Conley is better but it's close
Isaiah thomas is not a better basketball player then kyrie irving lol. Idc. Mike Conley ain't even close
So why are they both clearly better statistically?
Conley js not clearly better statistically and Isaiahs usage rate is higher. Kyrie would be averaging 30 on the Celtics
No he wouldn't. If anything his numbers could go down. LeBron makes him play better. Look at what happened against Detroit when LBJ rested. Even before and after LeBron returned Kyrie'a scoring goes up not down.
If you actually read what I said, it was "Conley is better but it's close"
The game against Detroit is irrelevant. He doesn't even play off of lebron and is a type of player who needs to be the number one option on a team. His numbers would for sure go up in boston
How tf is the game against Detroit irrelevant. His efficiency would plummet on another team lmao
So you are saying that Isaiah's efficiency is good? He is shooting like 43 and 31 percent.
I never daid it was good. But he still manages a higher PER then Kyrie...
If we are going off of PER for everyone then is elton brand a top 30 player?
...PER is an offensove stat. And offensively Elton Brand was amazong in his prime.
No its notttttt..... it accounts for steals and blocks which are defensive stats
I forgot the primarily in there. Kinda changes the whole meaning. But my point was that offensive players tend to have higher PERs. Hence Elton Brand.
Same thing with players who rebound well. There is not a penalty for being out rebounded by the opponent or not getting a rebound so players who tend to rebound have an advantage with the stat as well
Shooting percentage plays almost nothing into PER which is one of its biggest flaws. You can shoot something like 31% and 21% from three which every single player in the nba basically does and get positive points from the PER formula which is ass nine.
Okay? PER is still the single best offendive metric out their lol. It's no coincidence the players with the highest PERs are considered the best offensive players ever.
It isn't effected by field goal percentage at all and takes in nothing for defensive skills as well. It is a flawed advanced stat that people rely on way too much when making an argument
Lmfao. Defense has nothing do with PER, no shit Sherlock. Bruuhhhhhhhh
It accounts for steals and blocks but that's it. They tried to implement defense but it didn't work.
There isn't a good metric for defense that's why I talk about PER as more of an offensive stat
But undead basically bases every argument off of PER
make him go against the warriors and you see his talent
He's overrated by most, underrated by a few
yeah everybody let us cavs fan breathe goddamn warrior fans
and curry is not better than lebron
curry is extremely overrated he only shoots threes and they give him a 90 overall for that HELL NO!!!!!
If you think that mike Conley and Isaiah thomas are better than kyrie gtfo
damn these people don't let us cavs fans breathe, they probably think every cavs fan is a bandwagon. i've been cavs since i've first got into basketball.
did you first get into basketball last summer?
when did u start watching basketball
Same here born and raised in Cleveland
Game 7 of 2016 finals? Tru OG basketball fan