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Can heat up with limited number of shots.
Can maintain his hot streak throughout timeouts and breaks better than most.
Can knock down contested shots better than most.
Excels at making fadeaway jumpers.
Known for making tough shots off the dribble after creating space to shoot.
Makes hop-step layups at a higher % than others.
Shines in his ability to make euro step layups.
Can change his shot in air and attempt difficult shots with few consequences.
Dominates the post with his ability to beat his defender spin and drive moves.
Known for his ability to us the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Excels at making hop-shots out of the post.
Shines in his ability to use the post stepback move to score in the post.
Known for his ability to use the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Adept at running the fastbreak and finishing at a high rate.
Steps his game up when his teammates are performing poorly.
Elevates his play when playing in road games.
Elevates his play in games of great significance.
A player who can be wildly inconsistent.
A high volume of shots can heat him up but a lack of shots can make him cold.
Steps his game up in the 4th quarter and overtime when the game is close
Elevates his game when being outplayed or instigated.
Gets himself going by making big plays.
Can get into opponents head while guarding him.
Plays at another level in playoff games. Can also see where double teams are coming from.
Rallies team when things are getting out of hand. Helps team stay focused.
A quiet player that generally keeps to himself.
Strives to be known as an all-time great.
Works harder than the typical NBA player.
Responds best to tough love
Has no problem expressing his feelings
Hop step layup
Euro step layup
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Shot under basket
Shot close left
Shot close middle
Shot close right
Transition pull up 3pt
Triple threat pump fake
Triple threat jab step
Triple threat idle
Triple threat shoot
Setup with sizeup
Setup with hesitation
No setup dribble
Driving step back
Driving half spin
Driving double crossover
Driving behind the back
Driving dribble hesitation
Driving in and out
No driving dribble move
Attack strong on drive
Roll vs. pop
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Post face up
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Post aggressive backdown
Shoot from post
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Kobe went out and gave it his all in his final game and you still hate on him.. Smh..
Fuck you. Go into the NBA and do what he did.
we all know your slow anyway but kobe is great
enough hate comments yet?
stfu all u do is dick ride Lebron and hate on Kobe. Just stop hating and appreciate the Black Mamba.
he wants me to hate him
Go to the NBA do what he did and then say kobe sucks
WHYD YOU DELETE THE LINEUP
I love the times when they used to take you so seriously
ive never seen a pinned comment on a card b4
especially fuck you now
For those wondering, this comment before it got deleted stated:
"KOBE SUCKS IM GLAD HE IS GONE HE HAS RUINED THIS SEASON WITH HIS STUPID "FINAL TOUR""
Everyone here got r/wooooshed
Wow, you could get a comment pinned back in the day
I think you can still get it pinned
Wow that rare is it
Yeah me too lol in a game he shot 6/21 from 3 he gets a 95 three.
Was that your most dwonvotes thing lol
no My KAT comment was
Ok I'll check it out
I think mine is 5 downvotes idk
Keep at - 81
Well that sure worked didn’t it zem
go kill urself
why r u hating on a legend?
he wants me too
you seen all these kobe commercial. he wants kobe haters to still hate
I'm still gonna love him
go sit on lebrons dick instead
no im ok but thats a bit weird
Do you even watch the NBA because people who do don't talk that way about a legend like Kobe. Go get a life you gay retard and you can try to make a dent in the huge milestone that Kobe made in the NBA but no matter what you do you'll always be a sad,gay,loner!!!
Heroes comes and go,but legends are forever.
Yeah, and Kobe is one of those legends. Kobe very much deserves this.
Yeah, He was the man when he was alive. (Other than MJ, Lebron and Steph). The next generation for our sport. Thank You Kobe for your greatness in basketball. We will miss you.
He isn’t alive LOL stupid
Bro he is way better than Steph
"when he was alive."
I meant when he played in the nba.
Kobe is that legend
Kobe def deserves a 99 ovr card, but it kind of seems like it should be for the game he scored 20 more points than this one. Then this one could be a 98 or 97. Still, it was amazing he went off like that in his last game. Most people didn't think he still had it in him after the last couple years he had.
Its a 99 because he broke the record for most points scored in a final regular season game.
It was an amazing final game. Just saying if I made the game I would've made the 81 pt Kobe rated higher cuz he was a better player then and played a better game. I would've still rated this card very high though. I've used them both, and I like the 81 pt Kobe a lot better abyway though. It's all just a matter of opinion I guess, on how my team should rate their cards and what type of game deserves what kind of rating. It was a highly significant game and maybe more impressive he could do that at 36 with all he's been through the last few years than scoring 81 in 06 I will say that.
yeah thanks man. Fuckin 2K banned me and I miss my 81 pt Kobe. Saving up for another one now, after I buy some cheaper good value damonds
2K TOOK AWAY UR CARD?! THATS SOME BS
Bro not only did they take my card, they banned my entire PS4 for life on all 2K games past and future. I had over 30 diamond cards and Diamond Reward MJ. They won't even say why. They just said I broke the EULA which I've read 10 times I don't think I did, but it's so open to interpretation.
Holy crap dude 2k blows
Yeah, I had this stamina glitch happening where my players would go from 90's stamina to 40's in a matter of seconds. I shouldn't have sent 2K this video showing it: https://youtu.be/-yPteKbnOIU. but it was hard to play with this glitch every game. They realized I spent barely any $ on packs and so thefy banned me. I didn't buy MT either, I had a good method I used to make MT. Man I miss my team.
Bro you didn't have diamond reward Michael Jordan bc no one has him yet
Yes, I did have him and I wasn't even the first one. A lot of people have him. Shake and Bake does too. I could've had him 2 months ago if u wasn't buying 30 othet diamond players, all with Diamond shoes and contracts on em too
The ones that could wear Jordan'a anyway, which was most of them. They all had diamond contracts though.
2K stay trippin fam. U know dat.
hell yeah I do, punk bitches banned me for nothing after I finally just got 2700 for diamond MJ and over 30 diamond players. They won't even say what I did, they just put everything on the dev team and say they can't speak for them. So I asked em, so what nobody on the dev team know how to type? And u don't have any way to get in contact with them. 2K is bitches, they expect us to spend all this money and the ban us without a donation. I'm pretty sure it's for having more than one my team account, but they don't say u can't do that in the Eula.
I mean ban us without an explanation not donation, auto correct must've changed it.
Dude why they ban you for no reason
They wouldn't even say exactly why so idk for sure. One guy from the dev team said "off the record" it was for using an mt gitch. I did figure out a way to make a lot of MT, but it wasn't a glitch at all
No David Robinson scored 71 in the last game of the 1994-95 season, Kobe has the record for most points scored in the last game of their career
That's what I meant.
Yeah true, but my opinion stays. Your opinion is still true though. Plus Kobe did play AMAZINGLY well in his last game.
No I feel u, wasn't trying to take nothing away from what u said. I watched the whole game and it was more prime time and meaningful at what he could still do at this age and after all the injuries. Just saying he was a better player and played a better game when he scored 81 in 06. But I do think they could've made his speed and acceleration higher, 73 is Center speed. He's not fast like he was, but he's not that slow, and didn't look that slow that night.
well I'm just guessing they didn't want him to be too OP. Just my guess
yeah prob, he can't dunk like other kobe's either. I have the 81 pts kobe and like that one.
Someone down votes me cause I said I like the 81 pts kobe better... lol
Gimme some lube big fella
This hits different.
Haven't heard that one before.
I already miss Kobe
Amen man amen
the glaze is crazy
he hit 1000 ups off my like on this comment!!!!
damn been a while
the 22 people who downvoted should jump off a bridge
also congrats for the most upvoted comment on 2kmtcentral
It's funny that this comment has more likes than Kobe himself :D
Probably the best comment ever.
More votes than the card
Lmao more likes than the card
lmao it's 457 to 456 now
That's an awful lot of upvotes for an unoriginal quote.
Superman = Comes and Goes
Kobe = Stays forever
Am I learning well teacher?
Whats my grade? :D
That wasn't a exam..
Lol 30 people disliked this ^^^^ because it was deleted... shows you how dumb people on this site are.
why would you delete it then?
Well clearly some people couldn't handle the comment, so might as well end THEIR PAIN AND SUFFERING.
heroes dont rape....
This has to be the most savage comment ive seen ever
if this card came out today with this comment
i bet it would have 100+ upvotes
One of the greatest downvoted comments ever.
I know right....
The -81 likes just shows that kobe is a legend
or that there is 84 kobe lovers living in the past... Lakers aint shit fam
Man ur just disrespectful
This comment deserved 100 upvotes
Hold all Ws
lol butthurt for one of two reasons
1. a warriors bandwagon who cant stand that Kobe is the greatest
2. a Lebron/cavs/miami/cavsagain dickrider who cant stand that Kobe has three diamonds while Lebron only got 2...sorry mate but Kobe is better, time to at least respect that (Y)
kobe isnt the greatest
Kobe dickrider? I posted this to thread out the dick riders blowing him after his 50 shot game bruh lmao... I can see someones living in the past tho
idk how u came to kobe dickrider? I was saying the exact opposite - lebron or Curry dickrider...sorry that u werent impressed by a 60 pt performance from the GOAT...looks like u earned urself the most dislikes ever tho (Y) good on ya
Kobe ain't better than MJ fam if you think he's the GOAT then there's an obvious dick riding here
How so? Its an opinion. So I can just say if you think MJ is GOAT then ur obvs dickriding? How does that make sense. Theres no single GOAT. theres loads of players from different teams and generations man. Kobe, MJ, Wilt, Magic and co are all up there (Y)
How is there no single GOAT? In baseball there might not be but it's pretty obvious in basketball. All the NBA analysts agree so
Not really true...There's heaps of people who believe its Wilt...also just as many who believe its Magic or Kareem or Kobe or a number of different options. I think youve been watching too much First Take. Respect other peoples opinions.
I respect it, but people can be wrong. For example what did Kobe do better than MJ? Obviosuly you can't really compare current day to the past so that kind of stuff can never be compared, but IMO maybe when OR years after LeBron retires he might be considered the best ever. I think he's the second best ever, just becuz since he's still fairly young I'm looking into the future. I just say Kobe ain't the GOAT because I think MJ was better all-around. When I am comparing best of all time, I don't care to look at championships because we are talking about the player not the team. That doesn't really apply to Kobe vs. MJ, but idk.
Okay well I respect your opinion. For you its MJ, Lebron and Kobe somewhere behind. However Id argue against that and just as many people see it my way as they see it your way...So its important to respect everyone's point of view.
Explain why Kobe is better... He ain't
First of all you dumb ass, he didn't rape anybody. The judge said he wasn't guilty. Look at your facts you stupid bitch. He is a hero and a legend.
So OJ didn't kill anybody? "Look at the facts you stupid bitch. He is a hero and a legend." Fits for OJ, think before you speak
come fight me bitch
And first of all insufficient evidence doesnt mean hes not still a rapist. That doesnt mean hes not guilty of something.
sperm on panties and her claims. Guilty in civil courts. Its arguable, just like OJ.
Is OJ a hero and a legend? He was not guilty and found guilty in civil court just like kobe.. Seems like someone just doesnt wanna face the facts that their idol might be a rapist. Is Ben Roethlisberger a rapist?
You sound like a rapist as well.
Lmao... nah I just dont like it when people call this niqqa a hero, he hasnt done anything good bruh lmao.. makes me laugh about all these dick riders riding kobe bruh, niggas living in the past
sperm on panties and her claims. Guilty in civil courts. Its arguable, just like OJ.
exactly, "her claims" she was also dismissed because her story was never the same each time she told it
Im just saying hes not a "hero" he plays basketball, not saves lives.
So I'm a hero for performing CPR or saving a little girl being hit by a car and not being a bystander like everyone else?
shut the fuck up you dumbass
Is OJ a hero and a legend? He was not guilty and found guilty in civil court just like kobe.. Seems like someone just doesnt wanna face the facts that their idol might be a rapist. Is Ben Roethlisberger a rapist?
Dude it's alright some people just are in denial and dislike cuz they are mad and shit, we know and they know well that it's true.
Sprd go fuck yourself
Dick rider huh? Go drink his cum bruh
he didnt rape anybody smh
he did to me
Lol, CHeck out my cards btw
He's not lying lmfao
He's not a hero dude lookup some of the shit he did.
dude we are not here to talk about his past.
HE SCORED 60 POINTS IN HIS LAST GAME.
RESPECT THE MAN
What if Hitler scored 60 points in his last game?
Would we have to respect him?
Lmfao i will never respect him. Give any all time great 50 shots in their last game and i bet they can do 70.
You're a salty loser shut up
Salty ab what. Cavs beat warriors im good as hell fam
Not to take away from what he did in basketball that's incredible, but he's not a hero by any means. People can downvote all they want but it's true
That's right lol, he's not a hero. He is a legend
So that gets 21 upvotes even tho it's exactly what I said just re-worded...
Not really, you were saying he's not a hero which I did repeat, but I did say he was a legend...
Yeah and I said not to take away from what he did in basketball cuz it's incredible
Anyway, this cards stats aren't as good as his TBT
Oh yeah I know LOL I'd rather the other one
Or even the MVP version LOL
True that one is a monster too
go back to india "sabataj"
Lol wtf go back to being random with the 9096. India??? What the Fuck! Are u trying to look up Insults!
It's not random if you knew what the hell it meant dumbass
It's random too Everyone in in this chat. No shit it wouldn't be random if I knew what it meant u fucking degenerate.
Okay then u can't talk shit ab it cuz ik what it means and I couldn't care less if some dumbass reject knows what it is
EXACTLY! PEOPLE HATIN & GETTIN ALL DEFENSIVE CAUSE ITS TRUE LOLOL...oops cap lock...I'm to lazy to re-wright this......
Lol your username makes it perfect
no he was BAD
He was great
60 points fam
Nice to see yall can take a joke smh everyone on this site so serious
Man fuck u pussy lets be honest Kobe is a fucking Legend witcho dumb ass
Dude. Face it, you just cant take it that Kobe is a legend and he is better then you. And how was it rigged?
No comment lol
wow what a comeback
I think it probably was rigged and that the jazz the lakers and the nba were in on it but kobes defnitely top 10 player ever and the 81 point game was NOT rigged
no your just a retard
How is it rigged????
fucking dumbest comment ive ever read.
That kid is an idiot
im not a kid im 81
that was actually pretty funny, or I just have a low sense of humor, lmao
He said idk
i know hahahahha :p These type of comments are always made by
1. Lebron/cleveland/miami/cleveland(again) dickriders or
2. Golden State Dickriders who want the attention back :p
- no offense meant to the real fans of both (Y)
I feel so good Kobe scored 60
fucking shut the hell up kobe is one of the greatest players of all time go back to thinking the fucking james nunnally is the best player of all time
no you wont
You can't rig 60 points. It's not like the Jazz laid back on defense the Jazz played defense and Kobe made some contested shots.he shot 50 shots of course he gonna make 60.
still rigged tho
You are literally the dumbest person I have ever encountered. Can you explain why it was rigged? If you don't know, you need to either shut up or rewatch the game and find parts that you think it was "planned". Stop dickriding on LeBron and/or the Warriors.
im a Kobe FAN so STFU
Oh really? Prove it, you little shit. You're just a Kobe hater and will try to deny every fact that's thrown at you and mail it back with a stupid comment like yours. I'm pretty sure you made that account just so you can say "Fuck You!" to everything and get a load of "Fuck You!" back. You just love the hate, don't you? Cocksucker.
Did you watch the game. They where playing great defense. So don't be bias because you have Kobe.
The jazz needed that game to have a chance in the playoffs, so you stupid af
Yeahhhh they were already eliminated bro
they were eliminated already cause the rockets won and clinched the 8th spot 25 minutes before the game started
wtf? it is true.
I don't know. The Jazz only have 1 more loss than the Rockets so you'd have to say if the Jazz won by a mile they wouls have made it
No, when the Rockets won, they secured an 8th spot cause even if the Jazz won, Rockets would have won the tiebreaker.
What is the tie breaking criteria?
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Division won-lost percentage
(4) Conference won-lost percentage
(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(6) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(7) Net Points, all games
he's right tho the 60 point game was rigged
nigga why you hating on kobe so much? He's the 2nd best SG ever. you must be a butthurt lebron fan or something
kobe is 1st sg
MJ is best SG, well now I guess you respect kobe
After the 60 pt game, for the rest of the year i refuse to say mj is better than kobe untill 2017
You retard he is the 2nd best player to ever live
behind bill russell
Y dont u go put up 60 in ur final NBA game
Lets just say he even makes it to the NBA in the first place
Thank you Kobe. To those who insult him, fuck you. Go into the NBA and do what he did.
its not hard
in my eyes
no doubt kobe was one of the greats #ThankTheMamba
Get wrecked haters!
Fuck you bitch fuck you fuck your dad fuck your whole family you all belong in a fucking grave you pack of homosexual fucks your the reason I fucking hate this place, you are nearly as fucked up as fun slut but she is still the biggest cunt going around
I can’t believe people said this, obviously no one wants to go into the NBA and be hated and miss more shots than any player ever.
And be higher than MJ on the all time scoring board
While playing 5 more seasons and taking plenty more shots and still barely beating him
They don't make em like this anymore.
I'm gonna laugh if someone actually does and ends up better.
@DaMoose01 actually 99.9 percent of the people who insulted him are not going to the nba. lol
ok its easy
ok I will
How? Are you gonna go to seven NBA finals and win five of them? Are you gonna win two finals MVPs and one regular season MVP? Are you gonna be a four time all star game MVP? Are you gonna make 11 All-NBA First Teams and 9 All-NBA defensive first teams? The list goes on. Sorry, but as good as you may be, nobody is Kobe Bryant. He's an individual that has been an icon to many and a father figure to many of the league's younger players. I'll bite my tongue when you force me into it with your own success but nobody is Kobe.
Leave him he's jealous of Kobe
Sorry dude. Gotta defend him. The Mamba deserves it.
Nah, It's okay, I've had worst responses like: Klay Thompson is better than Kobe LMFAO
Alright, whoever said that is nuts. Maybe at the moment, because it's Klay's prime and Kobe's last year (I know he's retired), but not on an all-time scale.
Lol most of them won't even go to the NBA
No one is insulting him, were just saying he isn't a "hero." Maybe a NBA "hero" but not a "hero"...
Yeah, the dude that is often named the MOST CLUTCH PLAYER EVER who mentored many players isn't a hero. Kobe Haters find every excuse to hate on Kobe.
Def not the most clutch ever wtf who thinks that?
how is he not a hero? He's a global sports ICON, he's someone millions have looked up to and idolized. That's literally being a hero for people.
He is and I agree.
True cuz he idolized many stars today such as Lebron, Melo
None of them will
lml made noo sense why do you say nah im good ...but the nba is one of the highest paying jobs in America lol ... bruh you need to chill lml
His final game was the type of game you tell your grandkids lol.
The Michael Jordan of our generation. Respect Kobe
I was at the game, it was amazing to witness greatness, no doubt greatest game ever
Woah woah woah did you just say greatest game ever? Do you mean in respect or like points if points No way Wilt Chamberlain with 100
Kobe's 81 was more impressive
Hell yah it was
True. because Wilt scored 100 points in an era where they all sucked a lot. At least Kobe did it in the modern era.
Y'all are all ignorant as fuck
what? how? Wilt's game was good but Kobe's was way better
Wilt also grabbed 25 rebounds in his game. He also went 28-32 at the foul line despite being a notoriously bad free throw shooter. He also did it without a 3 point line. Oh and btw if you think Wilt was playing against a bunch of 6'4" white guys then that only further shows your ignorance
yea, and you're the same guy that thinks Wall is better than Westbrook. thats got to be the funniest joke ever
Yeah, never said Wall was better than Westbrook. I said the gap isn't as big as people think. They're very similar players
dude, 2015 season stats for westbrook were amazing. if u calculate it all out and stuff its actually better than the triple double season that oscar robertson had, and everyone overrates the season where robertson had a triple double average. wall never did that and he never will. was wall ever in the MVP race? no. Westbrook would've won MVP in 2015 season if they did better. he was easily the best player that season. and dont't give me the excuse wall had an injured team and stuff cuz westbrook had one of the best players in the league as a teammate injured. his team was so bad that perry jones and those scrubs started and played like 30 minuets per game. so i think you're the only one that thinks the gap isn't that big.
Yeah lmao Westbrook has made Wall look silly in their head to head matchups: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=walljo01&p2=westbru01
yea he did
Fuck 2015 nigga this is 2016. Is the gap pretty sizable? Yeah. I just said that they're very similar players stylistically and their numbers aren't very far apart either apart from rebounding. Stat comparison. PPG: Westbrook +3.6. RPG: Westbrook +2.9. APG: Westbrook +0.2. SPG: Westbrook +0.1. BPG: Wall +0.5. TOPG: Wall -.2 (Wall averages .2 less). FG%: Westbrook +3.0%. 2P%: Westbrook +5.5%. 3P%: Wall +5.5%. Yes Westbrook is obviously better than Wall as of now. Just the gap isn't as incredibly large as people make it out to be. A lot of people disrespect Wall when talking about the elite point guards. But Wall is 2 years younger and developing very quickly and is very similar stylistically to Westbrook. His jump shot is already a lot better than Russell's and his passing and athleticism are on Westbrook's level. There are a few things Westbrook has that Wall doesn't though. Westbrook is a far better finisher and has that killer mentality that Wall lacks, which is part of why he gets so many boards
dude u think stats r like everything. there are some other advanced stats that westbrook is way better at. and thers a reason why westbrook has a killer mentality and you just cant change that. wall never will have that. thats why i would take kobe over lebron or curry in the clutch, because of kobe's killer mentality. you obviously dont know anything about basketball because you think stats are everything that define a player and how good they are. Westbrook is gonna kill it this season while wall is still gonna be crying in his house cuz he didnt make it to the playoffs.
I don't think they're everything - they're just the easiest way to quantify what a player does out on the floor. Westbrook is definitely better in the advanced stats. Don't fuck with me on advanced stats, I did my entire MYP Project (year-long project in sophomore year that was my final Lit grade) on NBA Analytics and their usefulness. I found out that they were effective but my theory is that you need to use both analytics and scouting. One can get swayed by a flashy player and think he's the best player you've seen but then analytics can expose some of his weaknesses. I would take Kobe over LeBron or Curry in the clutch because neither of them are particularly good at clutch shots. Wizards will make the playoffs if everyone is healthy. They made some nice additions in Mahinmi, Thornton, and Burke. If they stay pretty healthy then they can be in the middle of the pack in the East. They'll probably end up around the same spots in their conferences
ya, in the middle of the conference. that means his team will never be good enough to win a championship and wall is way worse than westbrook. everyone says he is so stop arguing
So just because everyone says he is, it means he is? Everyone said the Sun and the stars revolved around the Earth, did that make it true?
you could say that for everything. i never said that what everyone said was true. but this one is. plus no one believes that the sun revolves around the earth now. you could say that since d'angelo made a mistake on snap chat then no one should do snap chat anymore.
I think this part of the thread has pretty much run its course
three point line?? he probably cant even shoot from there. and it does matter that he played in a trash era, and thats why he got 25 rebounds. its not that the players were white and 6'4, the pace of the game was different and it was less physical and other things. dude just admit it, kobe's 81 was better and everyone says so. and Wilt's team was blowing them out the whole game and his teammates just fouled the other team and stuff to keep giving the ball to him. kobe did 81 when they were actually losing and it wasnt a huge blowout.
1. Wilt could shoot. He couldn't just shoot from the 3 point line, he could drain hook shots from there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0IC8Nwkd1w)
2. So, I mean, I guess Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Wayne Embry, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Walt Bellamy, Jerry Lucas, Bob Pettit, Clyde Lovellette, Red Kerr, Walter Dukes, and Gus Johnson were all just big piles of garbage am I right?
3. "I would talk to Wilt about all the players pounding on him. Sometimes, he said he didn't notice it--he was so strong. But I also believe that there were two sets of rules. By that, I mean because Wilt was so strong, the officials let the man guarding him get away with more--almost trying to equalize the game. I also believe that Wilt just took it because he didn't want to get thrown out, and because ithad always been like that with him. But I'd watch it and I'd get mad. It takes me a while to get my temper going, but when it does--look out. I'd see what the other players were doing to Wilt and what the officials were allowing, and I'd get more upset than if it were happening to me. So I jumped in there. It wasn't that Wilt couldn't defend himself. If he ever got really hot, he'd kill people, so he let things pass. But I didn't have to worry about that. I was strong for my size, but I was not about to do anything like the kind of damage would."
--Al Attles, Tall Tales (by Terry Pluto) p. 242
4. Everyone says so because people remember watching Kobe's 81 point game. Also, Kobe is far more loved than Wilt. Wilt is often remembered as this villain - a "Goliath" - and he didn't deserve it one bit. That tarnished Wilt's reputation a lot, the fact that he is always so misunderstood. People perceived him as the villain who had it all but he was really just a gentle giant off the court. People tend to have a large recency bias in the NBA - specifically for when they first started to watch it. So people who grew up watching Kobe will almost always have a bias towards him because they saw him play.
5. Wilt was the reason his team was blowing them out. Pointless argument.
6. Something that's often overlooked here: the Knicks actually started fouling Wilt's teammates in the fourth quarter to try and prevent him from getting to 100. Obviously, they failed
you're stupid man. you basically proved my point. Wilt's team was winning by that much because everyone was horrible back then. (OK, Wilt was good but not that good). And people hat kobe so much, they just all liked him at the end of his career because he wasn't good anymore. Everyone says that Kobe was the villain. and i never said that wilt can't shoot, i know that he could shoot from like mid range but i said he can't shoot from three. u also said that he can't shoot from three so u just proved my point there. it wouldn't have mattered if there was a three point because he wouldn't have shot from there. and yes, all the players u mentioned wouldn't be that good or would not have been that good in like the 1990s or something. they would have all gotten destroyed by shaq or hakeem. so i dont know what kind of point u are trying to make.
So Kareem wouldn't have been that good in the 90s despite the fact that he dominated the 80s, when he was out of his prime?
you obviously are stupid. there were players like magic johnson, clyde drexler, artis gilmore, michael jordan, dominique wilkins, charles barkley, and a lot of other players. and i was just taking 1990s for example and why are you suddenly bringing kareem into this. i cant believe you think the 80s was a weak era.
1. God damn you just walk in this argument thinking your opinion is automatically right of course you're gonna think everyone who opposes you is stupid. Don't try to shoot down an argument before you fucking hear it.
2. I brought Kareem into this because you said "all of the guys you listed wouldn't have been good in the 90's" and Kareem was one of them.
3. Never said the 80's were a weak era, although the early 80s were a little weak - not too much defense was played
your the only person on this that i said was stupid becuz you are saying dumb things. not everything that I say is an opinion. and your assuming that everything that i said was an opinion. smh. of course your gonna think that your correct all the time. and i already told you that i was taking 90s for an example. you were just being narrow minded like always.
I brought up the 90s a total of - let's see - one time
I was the only person arguing with you. Tell me, what dumb things was I saying? Please, tell me. What things were I saying that were so far out of here that I have to be retarded to have them as an opinion?
1. Wilt's team wasn't winning by that much (22 points isn't an enormous blowout), but they won by that much because he was dominating so much. His team was playing some shit defense but he was scoring so much that it didn't even matter.
2. Do the players in point #2 seem like they were shit?
3. Exactly, Kobe was a villain in his prime but everybody just loves him now. Wilt was a villain (for no reason, at least Kobe was hated because he was a major asshole) and remains a villain to a lot of people. There are so many misconceptions about Wilt and his life it's unbelievable.
4. When I said "He couldn't just shoot from the 3 point line, he could drain hook shots from there", what I meant was that NOT ONLY could he shoot 3s, but he could also drain hook shots from that range. Wilt could truly do everything, he even played point guard for the Globetrotters (he played with them for a year after college).
5. Actually do your research on those guys. They were all either incredibly athletic, incredibly skilled, incredibly tough, or a combination of the three. They would've been just fine in the 90s. Pick out one of the players on that list and explain to me why he wouldn't have been good in the 90s. Greatness translates to any era.
6. Wilt would've destroyed Shaq or Hakeem. He was too fast and skilled for Shaq and he was too big and strong for Hakeem
and 22 is a huge blowout. but since everyone in the era was trash why didnt wilt win by more if he was dominating. because he just isnt as good as other players like david robinson, shaq, hakeem, other players too. and how do you know if wilt wasnt an asshole. you probably dont even know what team wilt played for if you didnt look it up. i bet you dont even know what team drafted kobe and how lakers got him. thats how little you know about basketball.
1. 22 is not a huge blowout. Teams have come back from a 22 point deficit in less than half a quarter. It's quite a sizable margin, but still.
2. I can't stress this enough: THEY WERE NOT TRASH
3. They weren't winning by more because his teammates were playing some trash defense (the Knicks starting guards and a bench player all scored 30+ points). However, Wilt held his matchup to just 7 point on 3-7 shooting.
4. Wilt wasn't an asshole. Every single thing I've read about him has his teammates praising how good of a guy he was, how generous and kind he was, and how badly the public misunderstood him.
5. Nigga I know more about Wilt than you ever will. Researching NBA history is one of my hobbies (yeah I know I'm a fucking nerd), if you actually cared to research NBA history you would know that the guys I listed above were not at all trash.
6. Kobe was drafted by the Charlotte Hornets 13th overall in the 1996 Draft, which is considered one of the greatest draft classes of all time, also including players like Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Peja Stojakovic, Marcus Camby, and many more. He was then dealt to the Lakers in a trade involving defensive stud P.J. Brown in what turned out to be one of the more lopsided deals in NBA history
yea, i research nba too. i never said the guys you listed were trash. i said they aren't good or wouldn't be good against people in the 80s or 90s. ive said that many times already and your brain still cant understand it. and where did P.J. Brown come from. obviously you dont know about that trade either because lakers traded vlade divac for kobe in that draft. i bet you dont know who the coach was for hornets at that time. you probably have to search it up.
Nah, no idea who the Hornets coach was at a time when they were trash. But thanks for giving me the prompt to search it up, always eager to learn something new about NBA history. So, I looked it up, and it was Dave Cowens. But can you tell me who was the NBA's leading scorer of the 1980s without searching it up? I was humble, don't be a bitch. If you don't know then say you don't know
you know, im done with this. you could think whatever you want so im not gonna respond to anymore. but i have no idea who the leader scorer was, but i would guess michael jordan. i dont know if you meant the whole 1980s or just the best scorer sometime in that time or era.
The player who scored the most points in the 1980s decade
oh, then i have to go with larry bird because he was a scoring machine and i dont think magic johnson and those players would score as much. but tell me who scored the most?
hmmm, didnt know that. thanks for telling me. ive heard of alex english before though
Ah, I was mistaken. Thank you for correcting me. I research the 60s through 80s a lot more than the 90s. 90s research is pretty easily attainable - I like finding stuff about old eras because it's cool to find some old clip of an unknown legend doing something incredible that only a couple hundred other people have watched. I was thinking PJ Brown because he played for both the Lakers and the Hornets in the early 90s- early 2000s
you know what, i should just stop responding to you. you really dont know anything. you said his teammates were trash, so you just proved my point that everyone or most people in his era was trash. and people become the villain because they are good. and what do you mean kobe was a major asshole. and yea, wilt played point for the globetrotters, that means everyone sucked enough that wilt, a center played point for them. not saying that wilt couldnt handle the ball or pass, just saying that a huge center like him shouldnt be playing point. and i never said that wilt would be trash in the 90s, wilt would still average like 17 ppg and 13 rebounds, but he just wouldnt average like 50ppg and 20 rebounds or something. and you cant just say, "oh he was too skilled for him to guard." you just cant say that. wilt didnt have skills of jordan or kobe in the post and stuff. and it just shows that you should do research on this because shaq was actually fast when he was in the magic. he was strong and big. so shaq would have dominated in the post with strength. and if your talking about height big, then manute bol is the best player we ever seen. and the way you described wilt sounds exactly like hakeem. except hakeem had waaayyy better post moves and shooting skills (where did you even get your evidence for "wilt could shoot and do post hook shots from the three point line" you cant say that by looking at videos and assuming that it was as long as the three point line. hakeem was also fast and big too. and by the way, hakeem is only 1 inch shorter and shaq is the same height as wilt. so you proved nothing. wilt would have actually gotten destroyed by both of them. maybe he wouldnt have but he for sure wouldnt have destroyed shaq or hakeem.
1. Nigga his teammates were trash because he played on a trash team. The Warriors were a bit short of the depth that the 8 Hall of Famer Celtics dynasty had. He had some good players alongside him like Paul Arizin and Al Attles, but no one truly great.
2. Kobe was a major asshole who cheated on his wife. Repeatedly. Wilt slept with a lot of women but at least he did it without having already made a commitment to another woman.
3. No nigga, it means that Wilt was fucking skilled enough to be the Globetrotters' primary ball handler. Now the Globetrotters are a basketball circus, if they were a legit team they would have run him at center, but they figured he could handle the ball well enough to be a guard so why the hell not.
4. Wilt would average a bit more than 17 and 13. Try about 30 and 18.
5. If you don't think Wilt had some skills in the post then you know nothing about him.
6. Yeah Shaq was fast but Wilt was a track star at Kansas, winning national titles in the 400, 800, high jump, triple jump, broad jump, and shot put. Could Shaq have done that.
7. Wilt was stronger than Shaq. He used to work out with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the offseason and Arnold testified that Wilt was the strongest man - excluding pro bodybuilders and lifters - that he had ever met. Wilt was taller (Wilt was 7'1"-7'2" barefoot, Shaq was 7'0"-7'1" in shoes), stronger, more athletic, smarter, tougher, and more skilled. Also, Hakeem being 7'0" is confirmed bullshit. He was actually 6'10" at the most.
8. Well, let's see, Wilt was the most freakish athlete the NBA has ever seen, he was the strongest man the NBA has ever seen, he had incredible skill for a man of his size and physicality, and he had incredble basketball IQ
haha all this is a funny joke man. u r stupid and how would u know that hakeem is 6"10.
Aka you don't have a response.And he was 6'10" because Hakeem was always listed at either 7'0" or 6'11" because, in the 80s, the NBA started to take player measurements in basketball shoes - which means that MJ and Kobe are actually around 6'4"-6'5", Dwight Howard is actually 6'9", Shaq is actually 6'11"-7'0", and Charles Barkley was actually a 6'4" power forward. I'm an Auburn fan and I met Chuck in person when my dad got club seats at an Auburn game - he's definitely not 6'6". There are a few examples of players who say they're shorter than they really are - KD, Bill Walton (who towered over Hakeem), Kevin Garnett - but they are few and far in between
Wilt also played 7 more minutes than Kobe in that game ( Wilt played the whole 48, Kobe played 41 ) and Kobe's 8 was to pull the Lakers back, the Raptors were leading for a while. Wilt's 100 happened in an easy blow out. More points per game were scored league wide in Wilt's era too, compared to the 06 season, the 61 season averaged 21 more points per game league wide, this was because of more rushed shots by both teams, more rebounds and super fast pace. Kobe shot 60% on 48 shots that night, Wilt shot a still good 57% but keep in mind most of his shots were probably tip ins. Wilt scored 59% of his team points, Kobe score 66% of his team points.
I was there to. It was insane. Greatest game of AT. The atmosphere made it feel like he scored 100. That just shows how electrifying he was.
Dude, holy shit! How much did your tickets cost
got em free my mom works for a sports company and i got to go
Greatest game ever? Hell nah
greatest game ever? He took 50 shots...
His teammates were letting him shoot. They were just trying to find kobe. They told him to just shoot.
so? still shot more than 40%
the best players ever shoot 40-50% for there careers...nothing wrong with that...getting up that many shots with that good of a percentage is insanely difficult.
he had 60 points
i know, I saw it
they gave him the dang ball every possessions he was like 25/60
He shot 22-50 (44% FG%)
Yeah, The final game 60 points is very high. For those who think Kobe is overrated, Do what he did like getting 81 points in a single game.
I respect him in basketball, but not as a person
The 00 GOAT
You meant the Kobe Bryant of our generation, right?
No, Rings aren't everything. Michael Jordan is still the greatest basketball player of all time. TO that logic, Festus Ezeli is better then AI, KD, Stockton, etc.
finally someone who understands this. if rings were everything robert horry would be better than mj
This card is not just for the 60 points he dropped last night, but also as a way for 2k to honour his legacy.
Yeah but its also last nights game do you see the 35 driving dunk
made my day
if it wasn't for honoring his career, there probably wouldn't be a moments card
Nah there would just it wouldn't be as high rated
PREACH MY FRIEND PREACH
You think you could do better then him
But could you drop 60 on your last game unexpectedly
Kobe is the GOAT but him dropping 60 was 100% expected
It was not
slowest goat ever
100th upvote congratz
G.O.A.T. or Goat?
You obviously haven't watch Kobe played
He is NOT the GOAT, not even the best SG ever lol
do what he did and see if you do anything close to what he did
If u did what he did, how would it not be close to what he did?
English motherfucker do you speak it
stop hating Kobe he did something u will never do
You wanna justify?
no. greatest sg ever but 11th all time
L LEDO IS THE GOAT SG
Greatest SG? Did u just forget about Mike? All love to Kobe but he ain't the goat sg
And then this dude said 11th greatest all time maybe he has Scalabrine above Kobe
could have at least gave him 80 speed
They did that cuz hes old and slow, no disprespect
what about at least 75
i give it 1 and a half years. he'll be back
Tbt to where i started
fr funny as hell
yeah lol but RESPEK the name
Its respect not RESPEK, use proper grammer.
360 no scope
It’s been a year and a half
no way man...
Thank you Kobe for the memories. A once in a generation player who has been a great ambassador for the game of basketball. Kobe is a true legend of the game and his pure dominance of the sport will not be forgotten. Respect
my bad didn't mean to report, but I just hope Vince doesn't retire after the playoffs
oh how this coment aged.
He says he plans to keep playing another year
There will be someone better than him and eclipse him
2k does kobe dirty every year. 2k can at least do an actual tribute card like Madden did Charles Woodson. Anyway, goodbye #24...
Low speed and no dunk, not worth it. TBT no fade, no thanks. MVP low 3.
I totally agree with you, both cards have some very bad stats. for a 99 ovr he should be much faster and have a better driving dunk. HES KOBE!
I'd rather they say "fuck it" and just make everything 99. Why not? Besides, 97 layup, 98 draw foul, and acrobat badge. Just mash shoot and get an and-1 every time.
The speed and dunk is accurate. I would thank 2k for their accuracy if i were you
Ok, look at Lillard's moment diamond. 0 rebounds and he gets a 70 defensive rebound. is that accurate? no. Either way it could've been a tribute card like I said before, like Madden did Charles Woodson
why argue with me ?
true good point
tbh Kobe outran quite a few players last night...half his shots came from drives, he may not be the quickest player in the league anymore, but he sure was faster than a 60's rating
"There's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die."
he'll be back i dont believe him
I will miss watching Kobe for the rest of my life, I'm so sad that it's over,but that was one hell of a show he put on last night and I'm glad he could end his career on such an epic performance, the game he played would have been great for a normal player in their prime and he did it at the end of a 20 year carreer
someone is gonna replace him its a cycle. there will be better players
They should have made a card in honour to his entire career
This is kinda it I guess
Shit, I accedentally reported your comment while scrolling.
It is only for some part, look at his athleticism and dunking. It makes no sense giving him 98 and 95 3 pointer for shooting 6-21 while giving him a realistic athleticism
Yea ig but I can't afford this card anyway lol my best player is John wall
I agree! And that one should be faster and should dunk
ik like kobe deserves better than those dunking stats
This is the only card Im happy 2k cut corners for. #Mambaday
They better have lots of historic teams with Kobe on it
So Hyped up for this!
THANK YOU 2K! but his speed is going to be tough to play with.
should've given him an 80 just because
At least a 75 so it's somewhat bearable. Well they have speed shoes for a reason I guess
Does i really matter? One great card that a few will have... #MambaOut
Yeah man I know Kobe is my favorite player. I'm just saying the 98 would probably still be a better option
Just put a shoe
81 points = 98
60 points = 99???
Last game of his career, and 2k's rating system is also quite bad.
2k logic for ya but this is just also for his career too
Before the 60 points game 2k said they are not putting any cards 99 overall 98 overall or lower so when 2k showed a little sneak peek of the 99 overall of Lebron they decide and said fuck it dropped a lot of 98 overall but like 3 99 overall cards just to let you know
2k realized they fucked up theyre "lets suck jordans dick by making him the only 99" when they released that joke of a 99 Lebron card...so they got so much hate as can be seen by comments on LBJs card, that they were forced to release a 99 Kobe as well - I think the 99 is fair here as well but I also think the 81 pt game Kobe should be the best card in the game (Y)
"All my career yelled at me to pass the ball and suddenly they were like, 'Don't give me the ball' "
Thank you Kobe for you years in the NBA. The man who made me love basketball, you will never leave our hearts.
If this card could dunk, GG. But as it stands, TBT is better
Does anyone think LeBron will get a treatment like this?
Nope, Can't deny that Lebron does have a chance to be on the same level as Kobe at the end of his career but kobe was a 1 franchise player for 20 years, that's something special. Lebron isn't exactly the most loyal player ever haha
Lebron never had that killer instinct mentality like Kobe did. Kobe would go out every game and would be wiling to die for a win. Lebron doesn't. The only time lebron has that killer mentality is when he is in the playoffs. And if you had to play in a 2 vs 2 with your life on the line who would be your teammate. Kobe, Lebron, Magic, or bird?
Holy shit people actually respected Kobe in NBA2K16, how about that. Shit's changed.
i've never seen the respect then the disrespect of kobe in 16-18 cuz i was a anonymous user. so people did like kobe, i thought i was the only one.
Everyone always hating on Kobe now, back then it was different. It was a different era.
I hope not
Probably not, he left Cleveland to die while he prospered on the Heat
That's what I was thinking. I don't think he will which is BS
I'm actually decent at basketball
ok then not you lol sorry
lol i was just crackin a joke. obv im never gonna make the NBA or even college basketball. Understand what you sayin tho good stuff
I literally spent $1500 on pack opening and I only got less than 15 purple cards and rest all duplicates I just selling all at cost cause my auction doesn't have enough to room , haven't get any damiond cards , I think many gamers have met same problem,doesn't mean I'm a sore loser but at lease make some sence! so I contacted 2k , they said there are nothing they can do but finger cross wish me luck !
Don't hand 2k your hard earned money, because if you keep doing it, 2k will just fuck us over and become even more greedy
Same situation here bro, I spent 500 bucks. We can do nothing bout it. Just play and try to have fun, dont let it bother you. Its just a god damn video game.
Yeah man ,they can't sell if we don't buy
Change your jerseys and logos to the team or player you want.
Oops, accidently reported.
Hey yo, show me how's done
seriously dude? Put your either email or tel down here, once that works for me I would fucking contact you and give you a big fucking reward man, i swear to god.
Kobe you were a legend. Will never forget you, ever. Great card other then that
Kobe was my MJ, Thank you for making me love basketball #MambaOut
Will 8 and 24 get retired by the lakers or just one of them?
being a lakers fan and growing up with kobe it was super sad to watch him go... who will be the new franchise??
Robert Sacre. 27 points, 14.4 rebounds and 2.6 blocks per game next year along with the MVP and Most Improved Player award.
robert is goat
D'angelo Russel even though I don't like him
nah he gon get traded, bryon even said it cuz he snitched
They are going to trade Swaggy P, it's better to keep a young player that can develop into a star, then keep a 30 year old that is near the end of his career
Originally I think we all wanted to see Kobe go out with a 6th championship but scoring 60 points in the most exciting game of his career by far was just as good lol
use to be a 90 speed, now a 67. xD
Mamba out ;)
really you scumbags?
xdd them dislikes
Ew no Dunk= No Kobe
He can dunk... his dunk tendencies will be 0 tho...
i doubt 0. he was trying to dunk that game but he just couldnt get up there. thats why he chose to lay it in instead of botching the posession
why the dislikes
i didnt do that
WE LOVE YOU, KOBE!
Thank You Kobe
If LeBron's the King, Then Kobe's the god LeBron's prays to.
Btw this is the highest scoring output by any player this season
Might be the highest rated Diamond Kobe as well as the one with the lowest value.
wtf 67 speed he was beating them off the dribble and was exploding to the ring..
that 98 shot iq, no hate but 22-50 and the shots he took, he should hav atleast a 80 speed
2K really messed up with this; should been a career tribute card like Peyton Manning On MUT. They made it a moments card from last night; like WTF ?! Give the man what he deserves; the TBT card with SAME speed; better defense and post ratings and that's it. But becouse of the speed and dunking on this card; TBT Kobe is still better. I was so hyped to sell my Kobe to get this one but seein the stats now; heeel too the naaah nah
His career tribute is the 2K17's legend edition.
Because this is a farewell card
Ew 67 speed
I will do whatever it takes to get my favorite player's best card, here it is.
dafuq we have the same post
Oh im fukin sorry i didn't fukin know let me makes fukin mistakes b*ch
thank you Kobe, if it wasn't for you i wouldn't be playing basketball
Farewell Legend, Farewell my man :D
@LebronJamesGoesBack You're wish has been granted :D
I know, and it was a 99 thank you so much 2K, I was almost crying after the game last night
Ewww, wildcard & volume shooter badge + 67 speed & 35 dunk! The TBT and MVP card are far better!
No shit Sherlock
Yeah no disrespect, but I'd rather use the 98
#FarewellKobe Thankyou for all you've done for the NBA through the years
60 POINTS IN A CAREER ENDING COMEBACK WIN!!!
C'mon, Kobe is not a fucking grampa he's not 67 speed c'mon 2k
My grandma has more than 67 speed 2K better fix this
Kobe might be one of the best if not the best basketball players of all time. Farewell Kobe, it will be strange with you gone.
I've seen 10 Year olds make better edits
He really deserves this card #MambaOut
Im gonna miss him man :(
Kobe wasn't slamming yesterday like Frobe. His athleticism is based off his dynamic card, not off of a younger Kobe
67 Speed And 35 Driving dunk? Don't disrespect a legend like that 2k...
Thank you Kobe. Thank you 2k for giving him the respect he earns.
A true legend that defined a generation
Does anybody else wonder why Kobe has 1 mvp not like 7 that he deserved
Honestly, its because they expected Kobe to put up massive number every year. The MVP is actually just the player who played best compared to expectations.
Example: When KD won its because he went above and beyond his expectations.
Also Nobody liked Kobe. Its hard to win the MVP when your the NBA's scapegoat
yeah. too much of the mvp is based on media relations since like 90% of the mvp voters are journalists.
No joke. I think the last guy to win the MVP and deserve it 100% was when Lebron won his first one. ( not a lebron fan just being honest)
so true. the biggest example is in 2011. lebron outclassed rose in EVERY stat. except assists and steals i think. but who won mvp? we both know the answer to that.
Like honestly, I think they should change the name of the award. Because The most valuable player in the NBA right now is probably Chris Paul. I know it sounds weird but here me out. The clips lost Blake and have had injuries left and right. So Paul has picked up the slack and pulled his team to the 4th seed in the western conference that is amazing. I believe he is the most "valuable” player. Best player? No not even close! But the most valuable for sure
when you put it like that, it does make sense. i'm pretty sure that if you look at the advanced stats, cp3 will be among the league leaders in wins contributed or something
Surely. And reported you accidentally! Sorry! You on Xbox? Or ps4
I will miss Kobe #Legend
I just realized this is going to be the first pull-able 99 overall card!
Now He Has 3 Diamonds and this card is now the 3rd 99 ovr diamond in the game.... yeeeeeeeeee. I expected a moments card but surprisingly, I didnt expect a 99 ovr kobe. I have no problem w/ it I really love the card but I'm just saying.... *COUGH* 3 DIAMONDS *CAAAAAAUGH*
Guess who's gonna start ripping moments packs!!!
Nobody has ever finished their NBA career like this. #ThankYouKobe
He doubled the previous record for HoFers points in final game.
Havlicek in '87 had 29.
Kobe had 60.
Best way to go out for a true legend. I will miss you Kobe! I didn't cry i swear..
speed, acceleration is too low. contact dunk is too low as well
Even the drivind dunk tho.
rest in retirement #ThankYouKobe
I dont cry. Crying is for bitch niggas like you.
you why are you emotional right now bruh
aight buddy hope you get over yourself
Im not crying tho dumbass #drownfaggot
yea, you a troll. hope you get the help you need, man. this angry shit ,using slurs to be edgy doesn't get you no cool points. hmu when you get help man or at least turn 17 years old
Stop crying boomer
i can see your shadowbanned, makes sense. i cant imagine anyone liking such a weirdo
mad cuz bad
Crazy shooting stats but his athleticism bruh
Now there is two legends with 99 overall....... NOICE
This is weird to imagine when you realize its the last card of this legend. Btw the ratings proves that 2k decides. 81 points :98 61 points :99.
The speed and acceleration of this card makes his shoot useless because every shot will be contested.
The Legend has arrived!
Hey 2k... be a man for once and put this in a challenge so ppl can earn it if they want it.... or give us a ton of codes
most deserving of a 99... one of the best to ever do it #Respect
Everybody at the bottom of this comment section on this card are complete dumbasses. This card is about respect for Kobe, not just about his game.
Mad respect. Mamba Out...
HOLY SHIT WHAT A WAY FOR A LEGEND TO END HIS CAREER!
Im sorry kobe for hating you. you are a legend. it took you retiring for me to realize it
@DirkMamba WE GOT HIM MAN!!!!
I know I saw it on twitter! AMAZING *_*
What can I say? MAMBA OUT.
#ThanksYouKobe #24 #8 #LakersLegend
Wow what a game!!! I can't believe this legend is actually turning 30. Here's to many more years of playing like this. I remember when you were just a little kid and you came up with the nickname Black Mamba. I loved it from the start, even though I still only know a few steps lol. Love you Koby. Happy 30th!!
10 mil holy crap.
If kove was young, prilly his 12 13 season, him putting up 50 shots wouldve equalled 100 points...he lit up in the 4th tho
WHAT A BEAST!
he sould have freakin got a 24-60
why doesnt he have corner specilast or bruiser
I knew they would have a moments card for kobes final game
Kobe should be head coach of his hometown team the 76ers next year. i SWEAR he'll get them at least 20 wins aha.
THE BLACK MAMBA
wanted a 99 kobe but wtf is this, they took away his dunking..
They could've gave Kobe like a 70. He pulled off an Almost Dunk.
And his speed
67? Really 2K? Make it an 80.
81 pts < 60 pts
Screw you 2k
True. But it's a 37 year old, averaging 14 points per, vs an MVP snub
That game made him THE BEST PLAYER EVER!!
bruh 67 speed ummmmmm...........
where's my bronze gordon hayward moments for being so bad on defense
The only problem I have is that the 85 has 70 speed while this has 67
This has the same speed and acceleration as the dynamic.
And the legend of Kobe Bryant is now over...
i can not beleve it :)
Still not sure about the 98 shot IQ lol
wow kobe gets a 99 but, didnt they say michael was the only 99?
They gave Lebron a 99
I know right. 2k also gave lebron a 99 card too.
Bro, do you know what LeBron did??
thats not what i meant. 2k said that only jordan would have a 99 card but now many people have 99 cards like kobe, lebron, kareem, and other players.
Oh, but I still think LeBron deserve the 99 Overall Card
Thanks for this card 2k. #farewellkobe#misshim
Laughed when Shaq asked him to score 50... Scored 60. All i can say is what a legend. Best of my generation
The man, the myth, the legend Kobe Bryant...Farewell Kobe
lol 2 thousand dollars for this card
I hate the Lakers, but watching his last moments made me shed tears.
smh everyone was on the kobe sucks and doesn't pass the ball and has a terrible shooting percentage and is selfish bandwagon, and now that he's retiring everyone is on the kobe is the best person on earth bandwagon smh
Thank You Kobe, how deserving of this he is
But, really 2K, 67 Speed
Look at the speed on him
Did this man really sell for 10 mill??
We gonna miss you kobe
I Already Got The 99 Kobe In ONe Of My drafts :D
Lol, was about to make a momenta Kobe, then tweet it to Ronnie
the speed ruins this card
will probe be worth less than the amethyst. Still a Legend tho
THANK YOU KOBE
Heroes are remembered, but legends never die. Kobe, u will be missed
TBT Diamond Kobe better
98 for 81 points but a 99 for 60?
You could use him like a shooter, like Ray allen or klay thompson.
Do floppy plays and stuff like that.
Make his speed at least 80 man, the driving dunk should be atleast 49 or 60 man
What the fuck with all this dislikes on this page? Can people just stop disliking for no reason; If you don't like what a person said, just ignore it.
@Got_Buckets_123 HE SELLS FOR 10M!
I was hoping for just a Gold version but it's good that 2k gave hime the respect he deserved. We'll never forget GREATNESS. #MAMBAOUT
can still beast and feast with 67 speed
It's Slowbe lol
In game the card says '15 Kobe Bryant... Really 2k
tbh would rather have the 98 ovr than this one
you know what bitch fuck you this dude was the greatest to ever do it and you gon go head and hate on the dude. FUCK YOU HOE!!!
Dude, chill, everyone's entitled to an opinion, and he wasn't hating he just prefers young Kobe over older Kobe. Either way, Kobe's still one of the greatest player ever.
I'm just playing man TR is my friend so i was just messing with him lol. i would also rather have the TBT 98 rather than the 99.
Alright, just easy on the language man.
Hey I called it too. http://2kmtcentral.com/16/players/10147/lebron-james#comment-133041
damn, they didn't have to make him that slow... He could at least be in the low 80's or high 70's, not 67
the comments on this card are so whack you either have 50 upvotes or 20 downvotes lol
Who is gonna miss Kobe?
Best retirement game of all time. 60 points. Greatness.
Mamba Out WTF 2k Why Driving dunk only 35????
How many times did Kobe dunk his last game?