Stephen Curry
Dynamic Ratings / Warriors
| Name | Stephen Curry |
|---|---|
| Edition | 2015 |
| Theme | Dynamic Ratings |
| Collection | Warriors |
| Position | PG |
| Age | 31 |
| Height | 6'3" |
| Weight | 185lbs |
| From | Davidson |
| Plays | P&R Point, 3 PT, Handoff, Isolation |
| Sell Value | 3600 |
| Added | September 30th, 2015 |
96 Overall
95 Outside scoring
- 93 Standing shot mid
- 92 Moving shot mid
- 99 Standing shot 3pt
- 97 Moving shot 3pt
- 98 Shot IQ
- 90 Free throw
- 98 OffensiveOff. consistency
82 Inside scoring
- 94 Standing shot close
- 93 Moving shot close
- 98 Standing layup
- 97 Driving layup
- 25 Standing dunk
- 36 Driving dunk
- 25 Contact dunk
- 92 Draw foul
- 35 Post control
- 35 Post hook
- 52 Post fadeaway
- 98 Hands
96 Playmaking
- 98 Ball control
- 98 Passing accuracy
- 91 Passing vision
- 98 Passing IQ
91 Athleticism
- 89 Speed
- 96 Acceleration
- 73 Vertical
- 48 Strength
- 98 Stamina
- 98 Hustle
- 93 Overall durability
82 Defending
- 78 On-ball defensedef. IQ
- 30 Low post defensedef. IQ
- 82 Pick & roll defensedef. IQ
- 84 Help defensedef. IQ
- 78 Lateral quickness
- 95 Pass perception
- 97 Reaction time
- 86 Steal
- 37 Block
- 82 Shot contest
- 75 DefensiveDef. consistency
55 Rebounding
- 36 Offensive rebound
- 61 Defensive rebound
- 64 Boxout
3412 Total attributesattr.
| Updates | OVR | POS | INS | OUT | PLY | ATH | DEF | REB |
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96 | PG | 82 | 95 | 96 | 91 | 82 | 55 |
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97 | PG | 83 | 96 | 96 | 94 | 84 | 55 |
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97 | PG | 83 | 97 | 96 | 94 | 84 | 55 |
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98 | PG | 83 | 97 | 96 | 94 | 84 | 55 |
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97 | PG | 83 | 97 | 94 | 92 | 84 | 55 |
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96 | PG | 82 | 96 | 93 | 92 | 84 | 55 |
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95 | PG | 82 | 95 | 91 | 91 | 84 | 55 |
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95 | PG | 83 | 95 | 91 | 91 | 84 | 55 |
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95 | PG | 83 | 96 | 91 | 91 | 84 | 50 |
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96 | PG | 83 | 97 | 91 | 91 | 84 | 50 |
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95 | PG | 82 | 95 | 95 | 91 | 84 | 50 |
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94 | PG | 80 | 92 | 95 | 89 | 84 | 50 |
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93 | PG | 79 | 90 | 95 | 88 | 84 | 50 |
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Curry averages less than 6 assists per game ATM. Why is his playmaking still a 95 (better than '98 john stockton)?
Curry this year 2:1 assists to turnover ratio = 98 Passing Accuracy
Chris Paul '08 5:1 assists to turnover ratio = 98 Passing Accuracy
Magic Johnson '87 3:1 assists to turnover ratio = 98 Passing Accuracy
Jason Kidd 3:1 assists to turnover ratio = 98 Passing Accuracy
John Stockton 4.8:1 assits to turnover ratio = 99 Passing Accuracy
Make what you want out of these stats
He should have the same ball control and slightly lower IQ, but accuracy and vision need to go down to like 80.
Show 3 replies...W, and technically from these stats shouldn't paul have 99 accuracy.
'08 CP3 is 4th best assist% season, Nash has 7 and 8, Stockton has the rest- so I think he deserves it. I like assist% more than assist/to ratio- for example, in '08 Paul wasn't even the leader is assist/to ratio, Jose Calderon was.
I agree his passing states are inflated based on the numbers. Three reasons for this:
1. 2K is compensating because they can't put his other stats any higher. Arguably his 99 3point shooting still doesn't do him justice in game. Therefore they've padded his other numbers.
2. Curry is turning down passing opportunities for shots this year, resulting in fewer assists and far greater scoring capabilities. Just because someone doesn't pass as often, doesn't mean they aren't as capable.
3. There's definitely a lot of curry-mania (hype, 'dickriding', whatever), and that certainly inflates them a bit as well.
2K is again sucking Curry's dick. As of now, Curry averages 6.6 assists a game. This nigga has similar playmaking stats as Magic freaking Johnson who averaged 11 assists a game. How in their right mind would 2K give him the same stats as Magic? I mean 6.6 assists a night to a team with tons of terrific players? Bullshit. Also, 95 pass perception, 97 reaction time? Curry averages 2.1 steals a game, a good clip, but he does not deserve those high numbers for his steals. Instead, why dont they raise his steal? Also, Curry isn't even super fast. He starts fast breaks and finishes them too, but he's not even controlling the break like Lebron does. When was he ever featured for his speed? 2k giving him 95 speed, 96 accel? 1 stat slower than Westbrook? 98 Hustle? When does he ever dive for loose balls and go for hard shit? 2K get your shit together.
They just boost all of his stats up because he's that good. Look at the 99 jordan card, he has a 95 outside shot. He wasn't even known for his three point shooting.
Show 7 replies...That season he shot over 50% from the arc. Look it up
He gets a lot of secondary assists. His teammates will pass one last time before they score
Show 10 replies...Yes but that's not an official stat is it?
Technically no but he is a better passer than what the stats show.
Agreed, but not to the extent at which 2k rated him. 96 playmaking?!
If I was being honest I would give him a 90 playmaking. But personally I like the high ratings
I don't, I 100% respect his shooting stats but 2k was just looking for things to upgrade just to get him a super high OVR.
I agree. What would you rate his playmaking
It's not necessarily the number of assists he gets per night, but his ability to do so. If you watch this video https://youtu.be/_9u8A6QLCEI you'll see what I mean. He is such an offensive threat everywhere on the court that nearly the entire defense is always focused on him, which allows him to feed it to the open man. Magic, arguably the greatest passers of all time, averaged 13 assists and 17 points per game in his best passing season. Granted, that's nearly double Curry's assist average, but Magic's point output is nearly half as much as Curry's as well. You're also forgetting that Curry averages 33 minutes a game, and has sat out over 15 4th quarters this season. And you think that 2.1 steals a game doesn't warrant an 86 steal, 95 pass perception and 97 reaction time? Gary Payton averaged 2.8 steals per game in his best season, and he gets a 99 steal, 93 pass perception and 96 reaction time, so what's the problem with Steph's 86, 95 and 97? The Glove was a great defender and could steal the ball so well by picking players pockets, as opposed to Steph, who more often steals the ball in the passing lane. As for speed and acceleration, although they may sound misleading, the speed and acceleration attributes apply not only to running down the court, but also running down the court while dribbling, as well as being able to change pace. If you look at this video https://youtu.be/e0XCz_Qh8S8 or even just watch some of his games, you'll see that there are very few who can change pace or move down the court while handling the ball as fast as Curry. 98 hustle?https://youtu.be/scVim-nbCAE This isn't a prime example of intense hustle, but I encourage you to show me a play where there is a loose ball that Steph Curry didn't go for. ^^All of this, but I'm actually a clipper fan, and am annoyed as much as everyone else by Steph Curry's inherent ability to make my team lose. It just pisses me off when random people think they know basketball so well and try to sell NBA players' abilities so short.
Show 4 replies...Random people? I know a lot about basketball and I'm not a hater of Steph at all. I just think 2k is way too generous in giving him a 98 overall. Assists are straight up assists. I dont give a fucking crap Magic's point output is half as much as Curry's. He had averaged more than twice Curry's assists numbers, which is only proving Magic is a lot better passer than Curry. His steals are in the passing lane, but 95 and 97 are reserved to those that are superior at stealing the ball in midair. You're putting '16 Curry in the same conversation (stealing) as Big-O, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Isiah Thomas? I'm not trying to sell of NBA players abilities. In fact, I'm totally in favor of his scoring, rebounding, and most of his other stats. It's just unfair how 2k gives him too high stats for other stats.
Boy fuck outta here i know a hell of alot of stuff about basketball and curry's rating shouldn't be that high if he don't deserve it they boost his other stats to get the desired overall but we all know damn well he dont deserve some of the stats he has so before u type a whole essay get your shit straight first pussy
the fact that he has the same speed as westbrook is a joke. 2k is just looking for things to upgrade at this point
Lol I completely agree. He's fast, faster than they gave him credit for at the beginning of the year, but Russell is faster. The problem is the 3-pointer maxes out at 99 and making great cuts to the basket isn't a rating so 2K looks to other places to give him ratings.
Watch out, Curry's getting a driving dunk of 99 for the uncontested dunk he did at the All-Star game. As the 2k staff said: "The dunk was so good, that it could have been used to beat Vince Carter in a dunk contest."
Show 6 replies...CTFU
I forgot to mention his block is going up for the time he blocked former teammate David Lee years ago. I think to a 98, if my studies are correct. Also, he's getting a 84 -> 97 overall defense boost.
probably they he already got better shooting stats than Jordan and driving better passing than magic Johnson ugh 2k he got a higher steal than Gary Payton like dafuq
People need to hop off his nut. Seriously, they need to. He has one of the shittiest defense I have ever seen. He should have a 95+ Outside, an 80-85 Inside, 85 Play-making, 45 rebounding, 60 Defense, and 75-85 Athleticism.
No doubt the best offensive player in the NBA right now and one of the most skilled players in NBA history...But his defense is overrated; he doesn't even guard the other teams star PG, Klay does. And he got crossed by Mudiay and can't come close to stopping the Westbrook's or Lillard, CP3's or Wall. But he's a great player despite that.
no. just check out the fucking stats.
Show 4 replies...
Yes. "Check the fucking stats". His defensive stats are actually quite good and are better than Chris Paul's who (especially on this site) is practically worshiped for his defense.
These are for this season through the whole season until last I looked
about a couple weeks ago.
Curry: 1.29 DRPM Paul: 0.90 DRPM
(Kawhi's DRPM is almost 5, he's such a good defender haha)
When the defender:
ISO FG%:
Curry: 29% Paul: 41%
Spot-up FG%:
Curry: 26% Paul: 33%
PnR Ball Handler FG%:
Curry: 40% Paul: 45%
Ik this was a while ago but keep in mind that Paul always guards the opponent's best PG, while Klay has to guard the opposing team's best GUARD. Paul had to guard the likes of Westbrook, Curry, Lowry, and other good PGs.
If Doc had a top 2 defending SG in the league to put on big PG's like Westbrook instead of the much smaller Paul, he would. IDK why people keep copy+pasting that argument everywhere, it's not even really true- just watch the damn games.
hes a very intelligent defender, and gets steals on and off ball thats why the rating is good, and all of the physicals for defense for PG his rating is not very good such as lateral quickness.
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Show 22 replies...Curry guarded Westbrook for much of the Warriors-Thunder game and Westbrook went 8-22...
WTF... u obviously didnt watch the game dude... curry guarded West for about 10 plays in total... and every time West blew right by him, so Kerr put Klay on him and Klay is a great defender but if Curry stayed on West.. he probably would've had 50 like lillard..just saying
I watched the second half and I never once saw Klay guard him but I heard he had earlier in the game... lol
Here's some stats for ya...
Curry: 1.29 DRPM Paul: 0.90 DRPM
When the defender:
ISO FG%:
Curry: 29% Paul: 41%
Spot-up FG%:
Curry: 26% Paul: 33%
PnR Ball Handler FG%:
Curry: 40% Paul: 45%
Chris Paul was playing hurt from injury alot of the season and there's no question that Curry's GSW are a MUCH better defensive team than the Clippers. Steph's defence looks better when he's getting help defense from Draymon and Klay, whereas CP3's perimeter help is JJ Redickk, Moute and an old Paul Pierce.
Absolute truth. Also comparing only Paul to Curry and forming an argument is a joke. Curry may not be the worst defender but literally half the leagues starting point guards are better than him on defense. People look for single stats waaaay too much... so blind to the value of the team surrounding that player and the millions of other circumstances. Starting to get fucking annoyed at these bandwagon half-ass nba fans thatve never seen a fuckin game in real life and just support a random team and player who is good, Especially with modern media Curry is like Lebron dickriders x10 -_-
lmfao thats CP3 he's getting older, why not show the "Statistics" of when curry guards Russ
So we judge a players ability from one game? lol nice argument
Bruh you must be used to this at this stage
Yeah... way too used to it lol
lol getting absolutely manhandled talkin about the same shit u did with me...not lookin good for u. Fucked dry buddy. Also I got 20 extra dislikes on random comments last night. Ive never met such a butthurt salty fucker like you disliking random comments. I happen to have been given admin status, which will be updated to my username in the coming days. I will make sure your account is removed sir. Good luck in life cunt. @Yeezus-Dota 2 said the same shit on Magics 87 card about Curry being a great defender -_- Cant take these salty bandwagon warriors fans anymore.
Here's some more stats you will ignore... (for reference everyone, he's saying Harden is a better defender than Curry and is getting ad that I'm proving him wrong)
Harden: -0.80 DRPM. (Yes that's negative. Harden is the 43rd in DRPM for shooting guards only)
Average opponent FG%- 46.5%
Curry: 1.33 DRPM (3rd in the league for point guards)
Average opponent FG%- 38.8%
LOL what a great admin.... @tupac please tell me you didn't really make this guy admin lmaooo.
Who is an admin?
Yeah, I didn't dislike you on those like you did to me, just ask @tupac. Maybe someone with logic did though. Calm down, not my fault the facts don't support you at all. You're the only one getting mad here lol
Tupac only makes his real life friends Admins anyways. And he wouldn't ever pick anyone who is acting like you are as a mod.
@ianstp @NBA_2K16_FOR_LIFE this guy lmao
Lol whats happening to people
Higher than MVP Wilt... *dies*
@Black_Mamba_TR8 @OutlawKing2k @Live1mike @smeverett888 @pancake71912 @LebronJamesGoesBack
Is this a fucking joke? Rated as high as Kobe, Oscar and Magic and higher than every Center released in the game so far and all scheduled to be released?!?!?! How does Curry have playmaking as good as Magic?! He's not even averaging 7 assists per game...as a PG thats shit. Half of what Magic and Oscar threw out there every night. Curry has Harden-level defense but is given defense as good as players like Kobe and Duncan, who in case you dont know, have the most all nba DEFENSIVE team selections EVER. For not being a good defender or good playmaker and basically ONLY being a shooter the fact that he's barely averaging 30 ppg isnt even that great IMO...especially since half his points come off threes. Kobe, Tmac, MJ, Wilt and even Baylor and Barry had 32, 35, 38 and even 50 PPG seasons all with little or no three point shooting and in an era WITHOUT consistent hand-checking rules. and even if Wilt, Baylor and barry profited from more possessions each game, prime Kobe and Tmac didnt and still averaged far superior numbers and on top of that were great defenders. Honestly people have to stop this. No disrespect to Curry who's putting on a hell of a show, but you cant give him a 98 with 96 playmaking and 84 defending.
BRUH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU. THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE. SO APPARENTLY, KOBE SCORES 81 IN A GME AND GETS AN 98 DIAMOND FOR HIS PREFORMANCE. THEN, APPARENTLY, CURRY GETS 81 POINTS EVERY FUCKIGN GAME?! NOT TO MENTION HIS SPEED IS GAY AS FUCK. LEBRON HAS 84 SPEED ON HIS MVP CARD.... 84!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? AND APRENTLEY..... CURRY IS FASTER THAN D WADE FROM 06??? (LAUGHING EMOJI) THIS IS PATHETIC. THEY ARE ALL RIDING HIS DICK SO HARD. 95 SPEED MY ASS BRO. HE AINT THAT FAST AT ALL.
Show 12 replies...Calm down bro, he had one of the best seasons ever, and now he's a 96, you happy?
Lol. A lil too late. Just because he had amazing stats, that doesn't make him amazing in everything. It says he has amazing defense, but last time I checked, Westbrook is being covered by Klay Thompson... And do you really think he's faster than Wade?! (From when he was a 1 year old until even freaking today.)
he's not, his defense is 82
Jae Crowder has a 77 defense but he was one vote away from an all-defensive team. Curry should not be higher than him.
Ok, then make his defense higher than Curry's. Does it even matter anymore though?
Chill kid.
I think it's because he's going to literally obliterate his old 3-pt record. . . that's why they're giving him such a high boost. . . just to celebrate. You watch bro, if they don't win the Finals this year, his rating will drop back down to a 95. ATM they're just praising his good ball work right now
Speak the truth. He doesn't deserve to be higher rated than prime Larry Bird and prime Tim Duncan, the two best forwards ever.
Curry does NOT AT ALL deserve 98. His rating aren't that far off though other than passing- the thing is only 4 96 overall cards have less total stats than him and Curry only has more total stats than ONE 97 OVR card- Kyrie. Many golds have more total stats than Curry...
lol dude chill out they are operating him right now because he's playing well . ITS A FUCKING DYNAMIC, not a base card. It goes up and down. Clearly, he isn't even close to being as good as the list you mentioned, but he is playing as well as those players. Magic Johnson 98 overall is a 98 overall because he consistently stayed around the 98 range. Curry is only doing that at this moment. Next year he clearly won't be a 98 in his base card. Think of it like this. If Magic Johnson had a 98 dynamic card, he would probably be a 99 at some point of the season.
Show 4 replies...I understand what you're saying but what you dont realize is that hes rated as well as 81 point game Kobe...thats also a specific moment in a season. Same with All star Magic. Its a disgrace... Curry doesnt deserve 98 even for a month...his overall gameplay and stats havent changed much since his first week this year. and your realize he's only going up in rating because of playmaking and defense...the two things he ALWAYS sucks at. no matter if its for one game, a month or a season. Both those facets of his game should be waaaaay lower.
holy shit y'all need to chill tf out.
acting like 2k gave steph a 98 ovr card thats permanent.
this card reflects Curry's most recent performances which, in case you havent watched, are absolutely insane!
unless steph keeps playing at the high level that he is right now, he's slowly going to downgraded and thats fine. its a dynamic card for god sake not a permanent card.
No one said that Steph is equal to Magic, bird, or kobe. But with the way he's been playing recently, you can definitely make a case that IN THE PAST WEEK (not throughout his career) that he'd do pretty well against some of the NBA's best.
yeah IDK he's been shooting the lights out u gotta give him that, he's a great a shooter as I've ever seen, but a 98? He is a very efficient player, but they do boost him in other areas, especially defense, athleticism, and rebounding. He's tries to play good D in real life, he's just not as athletic and strong enough to be a great defender. Some more length would help him I would say he's prob better at D than Harden though, but not as high as he's rated. It's funny how they increase speed and acceleration just because someone is on a hot streak. He def doesn't play like a 98 in 2K, he always drops or loses the ball when he's dribbling and someone bumps into him. His shot release isn't he worst, but it is kinda hard like onyx Kone's last year. I liked the release Pink DIamond Curry had last year more. I would I could sell mine for 98 ovr MT, but there r too many up. I want a diamond Melo, Kobe, Westbrook, and T-Mac (when he comes out) next and a large MT infusion would be nice.
I think that 2k is just trying to show that they are in fact acknowledging Curry's insanely high level of play right now. Because they can't boost his shooting anymore they are trying to boost other stats just to get his overall up. However, I have to disagree with you. I think that Curry is a good playmaker, but the warriors playbook doesn't allow for him to bring the ball up and run the offense consistently enough to be averaging 10 assists per game. That said, yes, he is not nearly the playmaker that Magic or ORob was, as they were two of the best ever.
Show 1 reply...Is this a joke???? How tf is Curry better than prime LeBron, prime Magic, prime Kareem and prime Kobe???
It says it sold for 800,000 MT today
With the amount of money this guy spent on packs to get Steph Curry he probably could have bought a month's supply worth of McChickens
R.I.P Diamond Curry. 2015-2015
Diamond again! Seriously though, you guys have seen how much I support Curry, and he should have 96-97 standing 3 98-99 moving three. There have been better catch and shoot 3pt shooters, but nobody is better off the dribble. Since thats how 2k's rating system works, the best person at it gets 99 and the rest are in comparison to that, there's no reason why
A. His standing 3 is that high, it should be a couple less
B. His moving three shouldn't be the higher one
well he doesnt have those stats but he has a 99 standing and moving shot 3, do i smell gooda or swiss cheeze, lol
That's just not right man... He should have a 96-97 standing three... at least he has a 99 moving now, he deserves that. He has a better shooting percentage from over 28 feet than the league average from inside 3 feet btw
i just a video game though, i does seem cheezy but if someone in the game had to have maxed out 3pt shooting, who else should have it besides steph
For standing, Drazen Petrovic, TBT Korver, Steve Kerr. Curry deserves the best moving however.
other than kay i don't see anyone better in the nba that is better at catch and shoot than him
Dude. Kyle Korver and JJ Redick are both very solid at catch and shoot off of the screen
All-time there are better shooters though.
When Curry has an open catch and shoot 3 pointer though it is always money, I'll respectfully disagree with you that he isn't the greatest catch and shoot 3pt guy of all time.
like who i am only thinking kay ray allen and maybe reggie miller thats about it
Drazen Petrovic, Miller, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver (highest 3pt percentage in a season record), and Steve Kerr (yes that steve kerr) to name some. They aren't way better than Steph though, he still deserves 96-97.
Curry is averaging a 51.1/45.5/91.4 season currently whilst averaging nearly 30 PPG (29.9) and playing 33.8 MPG. The last time a player averaged a 50/40/90 season with around 30 PPG (29.93) was in 87/88 by Larry Bird. I do agree his defence & passing are a little overrated, but he still averages 2.2 SPG which is why 2K is probably riding his defence up. I'm not a LeBron fan or anything either, but I do agree he could be better in a few aspects. Although, Curry is beating LeBron in PPG, APG, and SPG (Curry is 6'3"/190 lbs., LeBron is 6'8"/250 lbs., there's obviously going to be a RPG differential). Curry is also shooting better than LeBron in every category, not much in general FG%, but LeBron is shooting 50.7/29.1/71.7 whilst averaging 25 PPG and playing 35.7 MPG. The King still has some power left in him, but his golden days are coming to an end as he ages. Curry started off a little late, but he's younger and I think the LeBron-lovers are mad their boy isn't getting as much spotlight anymore.
Very good points. Also you might include that Curry is around 31 PER and Lebron is about 25. That efficiency rating of Curry is comparable to the Lebron in 12-13 when he was definitely a monster and also have a PER of around 31 ; so this is a nice fact to see how curry is efficient and dominant nowadays
Show 5 replies...Lebron's PER was never that high, Curry's PER this season is the #1 all time best PER, Jordan is 2nd and is actually kinda far behind
Wilt has the current single season record for PER
True. But the PER is a little different in Wilts era. Points scored per game has a much higher value to the final PER number. Steals and blocks stats were not kept. So PPG greatly effects the PER. Shoot Wilts could be much higher, but he also gets a huge boost because of all his points. If you look at the two top ABA seasons for comparison. The 2nd highest is a much better all around season but lower PER because the 1st highest scored more points.
Its sucks blocks and steals were not kept. I would of loved to see Wilts and Bill Russels actual stats. Russel might of had the highest ever.
Most projections have Wilt blocking more shots than Russell by a decent margin, Wilt's best PER would have been untouchable.
2K cheesing with that 94 overall
This is starting to get ridiculous. Curry deserves 96 at best. He is not as good as The Big O, or better than Wilt, Larry or Kareem. I'm not saying Curry isn't a good player, he is amazing but 2k is starting to take this way to far
Too over rated. As fast as Westbrook now!!
Show 2 replies...2k frustrate me sometimes
Exactly. Shooting is fine, slashing is pretty accurate and playmaking is pretty reasonable too - but he isn't and never weill be as fast and athletic as John Wall and Russell Westbrook.
All I will say is this, Curry is certainly not the second best player of all time. He just hasn't done enough to warrant that statement. He is having an incredible season this year, but lets remember 2-3 years ago as far as I remember, nobody was talking about Curry and the Warriors. This success he is having is incredibly recent and the warriors success isn't completely his doing, I am sure they can win games even if he is out. If he can keep doing what he is doing this year, for a few more years, I would be willing to push him in my personal top players list, but until then, saying he is the second best of all time to me is WAY too much for what he has done so far in his career.
bro you should make a squad i wanna see ur lineup
Show 4 replies...Just wondering, do you mean my actual MyTeam lineup, or make my personal top 10 players team.
Like make a lineup of your current 2k squad. I agree with your Curry opinions btw
Just posted my lineup. I run a fastbreak style, so I go for maximizing defense, rebounding and finishing on the break. While I also try to keep players who can score reliably off the bench, so they don't ruin the work my starting lineup does.
Oh k, sure I can do that, was thinking about doing that at some point anyway. I will send a reply when it is up.
I thought that Curry was gonna do as well as last season, people were gonna get bored of him and realise that he was never that great and that he didn't deserve MVP in 2014-15 (which I still agree with). But I'll admit it. He has truly proven me wrong so far this season and although some stats (playmaking and defense) are still too high on this card the 96 is deserved. His shooting and overall scoring is up there with the best of all time, something that I thought he wasn't capable of and the way he has led the Warriors is on par with guys like Wilt and Lebron IMO, again something that I didn't think he did last year as his teammates were as valuable as him. I even believe the Warriors will finish better than 72-10, they only need to go at a 65 win pace to get there after the start they've had...
he did deserve it. Just look at the warriors net rating with him on and off the court
Time for Curry to go down...
RIGHT 2K?????
And then he drops 41..... and pulls 13 rebounds
Show 3 replies...Watch now 2k makes his rebounding a 92... so he goes up to a 99. You know how hard it should be to be a 98 rated diamond? It should be that you have to have everything in the 80s-90s, but Curry just gets away with it only barely getting upgraded and going from 97-98.
Has anyone else bricked every single 3, including wide open, they have had with him the last few days? 2K's garbage ass is putting out all these articles about how he's better in real life then they just decide to make it so you can't hit a fucking 3 with the dude.
This boy ain't no Point Guard. Dude is just an undersized shooting guard who is forced to play point. Curry doesn't even guard the star point guards on the other teams, Klay does. Harden and Lebron are averaging more assists than Curry and they are not even PG's. Just one word, OVERRATED
What Curry's stats should be:
Standing Mid 88
Moving Mid 94
Standing 3 99
Moving 3 99
Shot IQ 90
Free Throw 90
Offensive Consistency 90
Standing Close 80
Moving Close 88
Standing Layup 80
Driving Layup 95
Driving Dunk 26
Draw Foul 70
Post Fadeaway 35
Hands 85
Ball Control 98
Passing Accuracy 85
Passing Vision 95
Passing IQ 80
Speed 85
Acceleration 90
I have no idea why his stamina and hustle are 98 but I don't know what to change it to
On-ball D IQ 75
Pick & Roll D IQ 78
Help D IQ 76
Shot Contest 68
Defensive Consistency 70
Defensive Rebound 41
Boxout 44
No one will ever read this comment, but Curry right now is averaging 29 pts a game. LeBron has more assists, and he's not THAT good at defense. His ratings are really juiced up. Right now, he should really be bumped down to a 96 or a 95, not a 97, he isn't better than Hakeem. Cards are supposed to be based on overall play, not points per game. This guy gets 29 points off of threes, layups, mids, and freethrows. Nothing else. So, why is he a 97?
Highest PER in NBA history usually suggests that the player has a pretty high overall play.
Show 10 replies...MJ was only .8 or like 1 off Curry's PER as a 98 overall, currently. Yes, it's pretty important, but I could argue that Curry is far from the most complete player. Aside from playmaking, which he's good at, he's not as complete as MJ or Hakeem. IMO, Curry's overall is too high. a 97 or 96 would be more fitting, but putting him as high as Kobe, Hakeem, higher than Magic, Bird, the soon to come MVP lebron and f*cking WILT?! That's too much. Take in the fact that Curry can shoot threes, mids, free throws, has handles, and can drive, vs. MJ's unstoppable fade, mid-range, had a 45% three, around 88% ft, great post game, had almost as much assists as Curry as a SHOOTING guard, had one of the best defenses the game saw, you can see why Curry should be a little bit lower. Then again, what's the point of arguing with the alias DiamondCurryisGoat?
Curry's PER was 32.9 when he became a 98 overall and MJ's highest PER was 31.7, for his 99 overall season though it was 29.4. So Curry was beating his "99 overall" season by 3.5 PER and was still a lower overall.
PER barely accounts for good defense. John Hollinger, the creator of PER, said that the defensive portion of PER is based mainly on steals and blocks, and doesn't truly capture good defense. So, Curry's PER is boosted even more because he averages 2.1 steals a game, even though he doesn't play actual "good defense"
As of Kobe is taking his retirement , i will ask you this ; do you know why is Kobe hated by the most?Cause he has been a selfish ball hugger for the most part of his career.Do you know why Curry is hated by most other than GSW fans and bandwagoners?I can write down the same sentence that i wrote for Kobe right here.
He doesn't know how to share the ball , he doesn't know how to play as a team.He doesn't know how to lead his team on the court as a PG.Yes he is a great shooter maybe the greatest of all times.Yes he is a good athlete also.But that doesn't make him the best.
Unlike the DR card suggests , he can't pass the ball that well or defence that well.This card is right about his athleticism and shooting but every other stat is overrated.Which makes the card this high overall.Make his D and Dime stats as realistic as it's supposed to be and you wouldnt have this rating on the card.
No , i'm not a Curry hater nor that i love him.I respect his talent etc.But i'm not gonna throw my self out and agree that he is right up there with all Hall of Famers to have a Dynamic Rate 97 overall card.Not yet atleast.I'm pretty sure he will deserve this good of a DR card soon enough in the following years but not right now.
I can understand why Moments card are Diamonds cause they are 1 best match bla bla , but as a Dynamic Card this card is overrated as hell for his undeserved stats like passing and defencing.
This case you've made is a bit extreme, but I understand exactly where you're coming from.
Did you really just compare Kobe to Curry? This is the dumbest comment I've ever heard, you couldn't compare two superstars that are more different. Curry operates in the system he's in, he makes good and very accurate passes that you would see if you actually watched a Warriors game without your extreme biases and he doesn't do iso ball like Kobe unless he has a mismatch. If you watch some of the Warriors closer games this year you'll notice that Curry isn't taking every shot, but you'll notice a lot of people getting good quality shots.
And why are you even arguing about the defending on this card? It isn't even that good. The stats pulling him up are pass perception, reaction time, and steal which he is all good at. Passing wise he's one of the most accurate in the league, just go to youtube and watch some passing highlights if you need validation. Is it really so impossible to believe someone that can shoot and handle the ball as well as Curry can also throw pretty accurate passes, they all use the same body part.
I didn't compare them both if you actually give your mind on what i said.I just compared the fact that they are both ball huggers which makes them both not loved by a margine of community.
Curry is not making the system work , the whole team is.Names like D-gray , Klay and Iguodala.He is there to show his talent.
Taking good passes that you can count with the numbers of your finger doesn't make you a great one.Any PG can make great passes in the moments.Doing that consistently makes you a great passer.
Great passer is a title that i can give to CP3.If you wanna call Curry a great passer sorry but there is no way that i can compare passing of them with each.
You can just simply look at the All-Star match and see the difference of CP3 and Curry as a real PG.Curry's eyes are looking for what he is best at , shooting meanwhile CP3 always looks for a dime and creating a play for his team.
I didn't deny that Curry is an absolute shooter but he is no where being that good of a playmaker to deserve 98 overall on that matter.Atleast nothing equal to what highest Chris Paul card has there.
They both have the same Passing IQ and Accuracy on their highest overall card? There is no way in hell you can convince me for something like that.So yeah , his passing overall is overrated.
And lol , even Curry's current card has the same Passing talent of Chris Paul's.Yeah sure.
I watch the GSW matches pretty often and all i can say is that D-Gray is actually a better ball splitter and playmaker than Curry is.
Curry can shoot half the number of his per game right now and make his dimes double or triple and GSW would still win the same.
And to finalize , i will ask you this."Two Superstars" you say can't be compared.I can only laugh at this.Curry can be a great baller but he is nothing to close for being a Superstar yet.You can just go out and burry Hakeem , Bird , Jordan like superstar names by calling a recently shining star a super one.He need to show a lot more consistency than only 2 years of scoring nice and 1 time MVP.
He is a Star but not a super one yet , not gonna deny he will be one maybe one of the top but he isn't there yet.
This is my last reply against you anyways.It's hard to explain facts about Curry to a guy who's nickname called "DiamonCurryisGOAT".
Have a nice life pal.
seems like your making things up. He actually knows how to pass, as he has the most hockey assists(pass leading to assist). Also you are a Curry hater, b/c this is what they say about curry: He's good at shooting but he can't play defense or do anything else..
And you are a Curry bandwagoner.Because they always calll anybody hater who simply dislikes or thinks Curry overrated.Get off of his D mate.You can't change them facts.
Yes he can pass , of course he can pass , but no where near to CP3 etc.Which means he shouldnt have a passing ability better than or equal to the likes of CP3.And yes , he can't play defense for all it's worth.He is not a Harden to have 60 defense yes , but also he doesn't worth the 82 on this card too.
I don't know who is even worse..."Haters" as you call , whom are giving at fair amount of comparisions or statistics about his good and bad sides or Fangirls , who only says stuff like "OOhh cmon , Curry is the best , he can do it all , you are just a hater."Without even inputing a single tangible result.
Making things up you say?I have all the facts dropped here , show me some and will see who is making things up.
I'm not a Curry Bandwagoner. I live in the bay area, I liked the Warriors even when they weren't that good, like back in 2011-2014. Also I don't even know if I like Curry more than Klay of KD
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Who wants to come burn 2k headquarters with me? This is just getting out of hand. Next they'll be saying Curry is the goat and give him a 99. Downgrade Curry to a 97 or 96 and at least give Wilt a 98. @Klayyyyyy Curry is DEFINITELY not better than Wilt!!!!
He deserves it... It`s that Wilt should be 99 not Curry should be 96
Show 12 replies...Curry is nowhere the goat conversation or even best season, so he shouldn't be rated higher than MVP Wilt, MVP LeBron, even Jordan had better seasons than this.
He`s having a better season than Lebron or Jordan ever had, only Wilt has had a better one (honestly even that could change by June)
Curry is better than '13 LeBron and '89 Jordan??? I hope you're joking.
Yes? Curry is scoring more and both were less efficient TS% wise too, he is averaging similar APG when you adjust for minutes. All this despite Curry being far from a constant ball handler. Lebron had better teammates but will likely finish with a far worse record. While Jordan`s team was barley even above .500. Curry is 1.5-2 PER better than both and has a higher W/S per 48 minutes (both the highest ever in fact). Apart from defense Curry has them beat easily, and the defense doesn`t make up for it.
Just wait a few years, it`s like 13 Lebron, at the time he was hated and everyone said he wasn`t at Jordans level, now Curry is the hate center people realize Lebron was on an all time great level.
No way LeBron had better teammates. Curry has Draymond, Klay, Barnes, Bogut and an awesome bench. You're also ignoring the fact that Jordan and LeBron were both wayyy better defenders than Curry.
I don`t get this stuff about Curry`s defense, he`s around average according to advanced stats and @Duvangrgata1 has some stats about him vs CP3 and Kawhi. Not as good as Jordan and Lebron but people make it sound like he is a terrible defender, like, James Harden level...
He's a good defender, but he's not Harden level and not Kawhi level- he's in between. He's better than average, but has no chance of making an all defensive team. Btw, I think 98 is a bit ridiculous. These are the stats BTW (source: ESPN and RealGM)
Curry: 1.29 DRPM Paul: 0.90 DRPM Kawhi: 4.56 DRPM
When the defender:
ISO FG%:
Curry: 29% Paul: 41% Kawhi: 21%
Spot-up FG%:
Curry: 26% Paul: 33% Kawhi: 33%
PnR Ball Handler FG%:
Curry: 40% Paul: 45% Kawhi: 36%
Curry really isnt a bad defender, hes above average, just not as amazing as bandwagoners say he is
Agreed, Curry has been playing amazing and he does deserve an extremely high rating, but Wilt should be a 99, if anything Jordan should have been a 98 if there could only have been one 99, but I think that they should have allowed for more than one 99.
Yep, they give cards for seasons, NOT CAREERS. The simple fact is every single card has the years for which the players have played on it and while you can argue all you want that MJ had the greatest career he did not have the greatest seasons. His best statistical seasons came in years where he did not win championships and those aren't even the greatest seasons ever. I'd probably take LeBron's greatest season over MJ's. For greatest seasons you could look towards Wilts 50 PPG season, Oscars triple double season, and I think Curry is making a good case for greatest season this year with the highest PER ever.
91 passing vision, almost maxed playmaking.... someone please hang me
might as well be the final reward for collecting all cards
Ronnie better be a savage with that rating after that performance against the Lakers......
There must be a secret rating hidden in code or something because I've been cold af with Curry all day, like an all time cold.
That on ball defense is absolute bullshit, He gets buttraped by people among the likes of Lillard, Wall, Kyrie.
he is a very good basketball player , but daamn he is so overrated in 2k . his Athleticism is way to high , he is fast , but he is nowhere near the top 20 fastest players in the nba . it should be around 85 , so his Acceleration. and his hustle ... i rest my case . then you have his defence rated at 84 . i,ve watched a lot of his games, the other point guard just slip by him . i should be rated at max. 75 . and then you have the playmaking , he does have nice flashy pases , that looks good , but he is not even near top 10 passing players, he barely average 6 ast per game it should be around 85 , .and his driving and standing layup should be a bit lower like the low 90 ... i love his game , but he is overrated
Ish Smith is averaging about the same amount of assists as Curry (on the 76ers I might add, where they have no one near the offensive skill of Klay or Draymond) yet he has 10 lower playmaking. Why 2k? He's nowhere near the top in apg (in fact he's 5 apg behind Rondo), yet he has the BEST PLAYMAKING of any Dynamic ratings card. It makes absolutely no since that he's on par with guys like Westbrook and Wall in terms of playmaking.
Curry is the best player in the NBA right now. His offensive skills changes opponents defensive strategies and that can be seen as "assist and playmaking". There are more ways to assist in playmaking than throw a pass or assist numbers. On defense, he is average for a decent PG. But overall, being the best player in the NBA and 2xMVP a 97-99 card for this years dynamic isn't out of the question. People see the overall score as an accumulation of all the stats. But maybe it can be also seen as the ability to help teams win games. If that was the case, he is underrated, not over. This is of course my personal take on how to read the card scores. At the end of the day, this isn't NBA endorsed. It's just a video game. Have fun and enjoy the playoffs. It's a great season!
Everyone likes to talk about how overrated he is (which may or may not be true), but one thing that definitely needs to be higher is his strength rating. Steph is ridiculously strong. He's only 185-190 pounds but he can deadlift slightly over 400 pounds, and in that measure he's the second strongest player on the Warriors behind Festus Ezeli. His strength should be AT LEAST mid 70s
I agree with the first half of your statement. He's stronger than people think. But if 2k went by the logic of the second half of your statement, Lebron should have 99 strength
Show 1 reply...@OutlawKing2k @boogietime He's diamond!!! Finally, oh man these 3 pt shooting makes me moist.
It boggles my mind that Steph Curry, the reigning MVP and cover athlete for 2k16, is actually in contention for MIP...
no
Show 2 replies...He isn't in contention for the award, but he has improved a ton even after winning MVP. C.J. should get it, Draymond and a couple others are also in contention tho
Why isn't his defense going down!
Its only an 84 and he's an above average defender. He's top 5 in steals as well.
Show 4 replies...No he's not he people go off on him all the time, he has to have klay switch on to them all the time. Steals doesn't mean he's a good defender it means he takes chances and it leaves him and his teammates vulnerable if he doesn't get the steal. You would notice that if you watched the games
I watch the games and he plays good defense and he guards the PG's. Klay sometimes gets switched onto him because its basketball and people get switched with each other a lot thats not uncommon. Maybe a little bit more because Klay wants the challenge of taking on a PG and he also gets switched onto him when Curry's in foul trouble. Advanced statistics actually suggest that Curry's actually a much better defender than Klay. There is also the factor of what would you lower. He already doesn't have great lateral quickness and his post defense is atrocious. He has low shot contest, block, and defensive consistency. His pass perception, reaction time, and steal are all good but those all deal with getting steals and he's very good at that. He has decent IQ and really all that deals with is being a decently smart and aware basketball player, which I don't think your going to suggest someone as skilled as him isn't decent at least decent at.
He's let 3 people score 40 on him in the last 20 games, he's let people like jameer nelson , JJ barea, Jordan clarkson, archie goodwin, and ish smith score 20 on him. Westbrook made curry look like a little boy and klay was forced to guard him. He deserves an on ball defense around 73-76, help 77-79, pick and roll 72-75, he really does get lit up on defense he's just got one of the best teams in history to help hide him on d, but he usually makes up what he gives up on D quite often.
If you really think Steph is a better defender than Klay you are taking Currys cock in every hole in your body. Klay has to defend the star PG of every team just so Currys rep dont get ruined for shitttttt defense. Currys on ball d is too weak for the top players. Westbrook makes him look like a good defender because he chucks up the most ridiculous shit in the world (only if steph is guarding him)
If steph would step up to the challenge and actually defend good players and actually play them well on d I think he could get a 78 defense rating at most. Currently for his d he deserves around 68-70 because he just too weak on d.
Like kai said if he lets those players drop 20 on him it just shouts shit defender
And this only took 5 mins to write.
Would expect nothing less from 2k than stellar outside shooting stats for Steph. However, the playmaking and defense are overrated. There are many point guards in the game who average more assists than Curry and have better passing vision (IRL), yet have similar or lower playmaking stats...
Well because Curry has perfect ball handling, 98 is right. Also passsing IQ and accuracy is OK, maybe both around 94-95 but Warriors' small ball lineup and ball movement is so fluent and CUrry is a big part of that style, so 98 is somewhat understandable. Passing vision is strictly about the assists and Curry is like 6.6 apg and is somewhere at top 8-10 in the league, so is also OK.
Show 3 replies...I understand what you mean, but I noticed that when I watch the Warriors play, Steph is not the facilitator. He is responsible for some ball movement, but often times they play their offense inside-out with Draymond Green as the facilitator when he passes out of the paint to find Curry/Klay/Barnes behind the three point line.
Yeah u r right. Curry actually either dribbles himself and looks for his own shot or plays with the Draymond as the backdoor cutter- give and go guy(dont know the exact words for them tho) kinda style. So I am starting to think 2K must impose another Playmaking attribute like "ability of spreading floor", maybe huh? Cause Curry does not "directly" assists to somebody, but his and Klay's ball movement is why Warriors averaging near 30 apg; which I think is so important in Playmaking.
Never seen anything like SCurry? Remind you of Chris Jackson/ Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, who had a short but brilliant run in NBA?
— Phil Jackson (@PhilJackson11) February 28, 2016
Thoughts?
Abdul-Rauf took and made three pointers at a much lower rate and percentage, and when he did it was usually standard 3's, not deep/off the dribble threes like Curry. I don't see the comparison here, and I wouldn't say Mahmoud was brilliant. He certainly wasn't adored by fans in the same way as Curry, he was generally disliked unfortunately as he was a Muslim, and did things like refusing to even stand for the national anthem. Not to mention he was definitely worse at rebounding, passing and defense. He just had a good shooting touch from inside the three point line. I really can't see the similarities here really.
mahmoud actually is very overlooked for petty reason.... IRL is a budget curry but a better ball handler and more athletic
Stephen is a 98, this is ridicolous. Hell, I don't think he deserves a diamond! Sure he is an amazing player but not up there with Jordan and Kobe and Bill Russell! I think he deserves a 95
OH mY gAWD hes A diAMOND!
A well deserved diamond.
Show 76 replies...this is complete BS. No way he does
Yeah, are you stupid! He is having a historic season on a historic team!
23 games in a season make a player?
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you said it, it's a historic team. He has some freaking amazing teammates. I'm not saying he sucks, he's great, I can't lie, but I mean, come on... Curry wouldnt be that great in a lower team. You know it. I've seen people say that he was on his way to be the GOAT... Wow. Curry started to be real good at age 26. LeBron was already a superstar at age 21. Jordan at age 23, Kobe 22
Curry was still good when the wariors were shit. or barely making the playoffs. He has just gotten way more consistent as a shooter, built up a great ballhandling game, and improved his admittedly mediocre defense.
he was a 20 ppg offensive PG who couldnt defend
true. for a scrawny guy who just got drafted into a bad team that planned him to play as a backup, that's pretty okay.
he was always starting... 35 minutes per game
rly? lmao, i remember nelly wanting to start some shit old pg over curry... oh well I guess my memory sucks lmao
he was always there with Monta Ellis as the SG
monta ellis was the bomb.
admittedly I was pissed when he was traded
not anymore though, turned out pretty well ;)
also milwaukee got screwed lel (although they have a pretty good team this year)
Okay which of his teammates is "AMAZING". Name one who is playing amazingly this season.
Thank you! not to mention the shooting percentage
Curry : 52,9
LeBron : 49,5
not that bad too. Oh and also, LeBron has more assists, and he's not even a PG...
He plays more MPG, but also averages much less points. Come on now
Steph Curry averages about two less rebounds but is 7 inches smaller. That's just as bad.
oh yeah because basketball is all about how many points you score
no one mentioning that steph gets less assists because of how the team plays...they don't settle so when he makes a nice move and makes a pass then that person will make another pass for a better shot...
Then you are kidding yourself, he is playing amazing this year and he deserves this.
playing amazing? yes. Deservers this? No. He's playing really well right now but is he that good? He's in the perfect team for him, a shooter. But please don't tell me that he's better than LeBron, KD, AD, Westbrook...
He's better than all of em. Look at his shooting percentage. Look at his efficiency. He plays less minutes than all those players and still puts up similar, if not better numbers. And his team is good, but he still carries his team simply because he's by far their key player.
first, if you want to play with stats, I can do it. Second, please don't tell me that he carries his team. Carrying his team is what LeBron did last year in the playoffs. Warriors' system is perfect and everyone can shoot in this team. Who saved Warriors' ass against the Nets? Iguodala. Dude, they got fucking Andre Iguodala on their bench.
Does iggy average 32.2 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds. NOooooooooo. Curry does it all, in all quarters. They've almost lost in only one game. Steph curry is the playmaker
no because he fucking starts on the bench! Dude, teams can't focus their D on Curry because they know the Warriors have many other players who can hurt them. That's really not the case for LeBron
So? He still hits shots super often and well! He takes threes almost as deep as halfcourt.
he has alot of open looks.
everyone on the warriors gets open looks.
Yeah LeBron did carry his team last year in the playoffs... and they lost. LeBron is just as dependent on good teammates as anyone else is, basketball is a team game one player can win games, but a team is needed to win championships.
they lost because they had a shitty team. But still, they managed to win 2 games.
I'm not saying that he is a better athlete, but he is currently playing better than them, which is the whole point of dynamic cards, to reflect how that player is currently playing.
cards are not based on how good you're playing, it's based on attributes. And don't tell me Curry is a 84 defender even if he's playing good right now
He is playing that good rn...
He averages over two steals per game and is lock down on-ball. That's all it is.
Curry has 2,3 and Westbrook 2,4, just saying
Wow westbrook has .1 more steals! WHAT A MONSTER! IG he's automatically better than curry even tho he plays much more minutes and averages more turnovers.
that's the logic you're using since the beginning. You make stats talk in your favor. I can do it too.
And the attributes are based on how good you are playing, which is again the whole point of dynamic cards!
ok so basically you have a better vertical when you're playing really good?
The vertical doesn't matter at all, you are using random bullshit now.
nah that was just an example. I could've use speed. You don't run faster because you're playing well, dont you?
He deserves it now
lol no
And BTW I don't mean he deserves 98, but he does deserve diamond. Defense and playmaking overrated. Layup as well
95 at most
He should not be on the level of LeBron bro. He's having by far the best shooting season of anyone ever, averaging a ton of points, and his passing abilities are incredible as well. If you think he deserves a 95, then you definitely don't watch the NBA.
so being a great scorer makes you as good as prime Magic Johnson? When he won the MVP, KD averaged 32 points per game. It's 2 more points than Curry right now, and KD would never be more than 95 overall, even though he's a better all-around player. And LeBron is still the best player in the world. I don't care about Curry's shooting stats. Basketball is way more than shooting
Um I believe I said he shouldn't be a 98 but a 96 so please read. KD also didn't average as many assists and didn't shoot as well. LeBron is definitely not the best in the world. It may not be Curry in your opinion, but LeBron is definitely not the best.
lol LeBron is the best in the league, it's a fact. The only reason people say is not it's because he's hated. People always hate the best
Well LeBron happens to be my favorite player in the NBA, but it's a fact that he's not the best buddy just look at the numbers
please stop with the numbers. Anyway, LeBron is better in other stats than Curry. LeBron is better overall. He has great numbers with a shitty team and Curry is in a stacked team
Uhm did you just say LeBron has a shitty team? Ya stupid kid. LeBron doesn't have better numbers and isn't as efficient.
lol the Cavs are trash. They wouldnt even make the playoffs without him. Open your eyes
cavs arent trash
they suck without LeBron
because of LeBron they would suck without lebron
Irving,Love, Thompson, JR Smith
These arent bad Players, but the whole cavs System is running through lebron and thats why they suck without him. If Lebron would leave the Team and they would run a different System where everybody is much involved they would be a atleast a top5 Team in the east
Love was a great Player and on his way to be one of the best PF's of the 10s and what happened? He couldnt fit in and now hes absolutely trash if u compare him to his T-Wolves days. If he would be in his T-Wolves form, the cavs would also be a very good Team without LBJ.
I mean, they have two very good and talented Players + some good bench Players like shumpert channing frye mozgov, and Tristan isnt bad too. Very good Defender and Rebounder.
Kyrie - 89 ovr
JR - 76 ovr
Shumpert- 75ovr
Love - 89ovr
Thompson - 79ovr
how is this a bad Team if Love would Play like in his twolves days where he averaged 26ppg 12rpg 4apg?? If Kyrie would develop a bit they would have 2 Players who nearly have a 90 ovr
Kyrie and Love cant Show their whole potential, cause everything is runnin through LBJ or why are they both in a bad Season. The chemistry is just bad between them. be4 lebron came to the cavs, Kyrie was puttin up fantastic numbers (2012-2013)
Love is trash, Kyrie is the only good player they have except LeBron. JR is so inconsistant and Thompson is paid too much
Love is trash, because he doesnt fit into the Team, he has so much potential
if he was that good he would fit in any team
@Black_Mamba_TR8 you got it all wrong bro. Kevin Love is a fantastic player, but Mamba is right he doesn't fit into that team. The only reason they lose without LeBron is because everything revolves around LeBron. Their chemistry without him is just too loose. LeBron and Love don't really like each other, and Love doesn't really wanna be there, so the chemistry is trash and chemistry really does matter. Look at Love's stats from Minnesota and see. He could easily do that in Cleveland, but it doesn't revolve around him anymore so he doesn't play as well and have as good numbers. JR is a good starter, Thompson may be paid too much but he has potential and is a good rebounder, just needs to work on an offensive game. They have a great team, but their chemistry isn't good, and the offense revolves around LeBron, so other's can't show their true potential, and without him they don't know what to do. Plain and simple.
BTW I'm agreeing with Mamba, telling Gallagher he's got it wrong.
Love is trash, he's not as good as he used to be
No, the offense just doesn't inovlve him as much as it used to when he was on the Timberwolves. He's 27 years old, he's not washed up or anything.
some players pass their prime before 27. Would you pick Love over Wiggins?
Yeah... Like I said, if Love was still in the Timberwolves he would be dropping incredible numbers.
I dont care what his passing is, if it means his ratings are better than Lebron Baby James, then im happy
Seems like someone's a LeBron hater.
Show 3 replies...but it makes no fucking sense
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The cavs have 7 losses, the warriors have 0 as of 12/9/15. Now, they are both very good teams, and not all of their team's success can be attributed to just one player, but they are both superstars that lead their teams. Curry is on a hot streak and isn't looking like he's cooling down anytime soon.
And remember, these aren't static cards, they are dynamic. They change with how a player is doing. If curry was putting up the same numbers as he did last year, he wouldn't have these ratings. But he is putting up what he is putting up, and his ratings should reflect that.
There is a big chance he won't have a good numbers at the end of the year, and who knows? Maybe Lebron will outrank Curry. He certainly has the potential. But just because Curry is putting up historic numbers doesn't mean you need to be salty if his ratings improve and pass lebron.
Any questions on how good he is doing? Look no further.
TS% vs FGA - https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-9.png?w=610&h=647
3PTFG% - https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-81.png?w=610&h=637
TS% By season - https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-7.png?w=610&h=527
Shot chart -
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/goldsberry-warriors-3.png?w=610&h=469
Points per shot - https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/morris-stephcurry-21.png?w=610&h=584
And as I said, who knows if he will keep it up. But this is a numbers game, and right now, Curry has got the numbers.
he has to be the most overrated player of all profesional sports and of all-time in the NBA. It sucks because he's a great player and he's entertaining, but this is complete BS. LeBron is way way better but yet is 2 overalls below Curry. I know he's on the cover and shit and everyone is now on the Warriors wagon but come on 2k. He's this game supposed to be realistic? Because if so, you ratings make no fucking sense. Don't you realize that Curry is one fucking overall below Magic Jonhson, the greatest PG of all-time? That's disrepsectful
You are an idiot
Show 5 replies...dick rider
STFU, Cavs fan!
is being a Cavs fan an insult? LOL
curry with a higher rating than wilt
lol 2k is trippin
Well MVP Wilt hasn't been released yet. I'm guessing he's going to be a 97 maybe even a slight chance he'll be a 98. I mean he is basically second in the GOAT conversation. Curry, however, might be the new media goat so who knows how much 2k will cheese his rating.
Show 1 reply...they don't have the best Wilt, the Wilts they do have he's better than tho
7 3`s in 10 minutes :O :O :O
Cant believe he hasnt broken three record yet- 11-16 today
In about a month he will beat his own record and own the top 3 seasons for 3-pointers made.
99 THREE! 97 OVERALL!
im out
Show 3 replies...Hey I could use some help on my lineup http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/74784/could-use-help. Should I sell Shaq? I have about 17k
The interesting part with this card is, when Curry possibly hits 13 threes in a game, how you can create a moment of it? Dude already got 99 standing and moving three, he cannot be better than this. Curry plays the whole season as a moment card lol
98 Overall Durability??? How??? He has had some of the worst ankles ive ever seen!
He's missed only 13 games in the last 4 seasons, 98 is probably a bit high for a player that still gets injured from time to time and used to be very injury prone.
http://2kmtcentral.com/16/players/compare/9018/10040
Welp time to burn down 2k HQ, who's with me?
I don't get why everyone is saying he doesn't deserve 98 overall. People who probably never even saw Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnson play just assume that no one can ever be as good as them. Curry is about the bring his team to the best record ever and is arguable having one of the greatest seasons ever so why would he not deserve a 98? And for those of you saying he's not good at passing and only averages 6 assists a game, it's because the warriors have great ball movement, he is leading the league in passing to players who then get an assist.
He has a good dunk!!!, I think that Victor Claver is better!! (:-)
Oh man, You're right. Victor Claver is god! Oh my godness.... I cum with him.
Show 5 replies...I thought that Curry was gonna do as well as last season, people were gonna get bored of him and realise that he was never that great and that he didn't deserve MVP in 2014-15 (which I still agree with). But I'll admit it. He has truly proven me wrong so far this season and although some stats (playmaking and defense) are still too high on this card the 96 is deserved. His shooting and overall scoring is up there with the best of all time, something that I thought he wasn't capable of and the way he has led the Warriors is on par with guys like Wilt and Lebron IMO, again something that I didn't think he did last year as his teammates were as valuable as him. I even believe the Warriors will finish better than 72-10,
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That's bullshit, raising other stats to higher than what they should be can't be an excuse because 99 3pointer is the cap. That's like saying Vince Carter should be a 95 ovr because his dunks we so great 99 cap is too low for him, not to mention, Magic Johnson, the greatest playmaker of all time doesn't even have a 99 in any playmaking. 97 ovr was the max rating Curry should be. 98 ovr shows how overated he is. I'm a fan of Steph Curry but the dickriding is too much, people are living in the moment.
They can give Vince Carter On point animations to improve his dunking though.
Fun statistic, his PER over the past year in the 4th quarter in overtime is a mind-blowing 41.8. It jumps to 42.9 when you only look at the last 5 minutes of the game and overtime.
amazing stat, where did you get it?
Show 2 replies...ESPN recently did an article on Curry for his birthday
alright thanks, what a shame, i always wanted to be able to get access to those kind of stats
that may sound "fun" to you because you're an analytic nerd. The rest of us use our eyes and have fun that way
Show 2 replies...Lol I can watch the games and enjoy them relax, but your not going to make a good argument for anything with "I can tell it with my eyes". PER is a widely accepted ratings that may have some flaws but in general is a fairly accurate mark of how good someone is playing and the PER is a fact that you can use you prove to a critic just how good Curry is.
Not gonna lie, I ain't no big fan of Curry. Everyone says that he's the best Point Guard in the league when CLEARY it's RUSSELL WESTBROOK.
Steph is going to be the next MJ not skills wise but just like MJ they are going to make a bunch of unnecessary cards MJ in this game has 12 cards you could almost have a team full of jordans 2k is already sucking curry's di*k his rating is too high
Ok then...
Show 3 replies...I made that look a bit agressive lol
It wasn't that it just didn't make sense.
What i'm saying is that 2k is probably going to keep making overrated curry cards and players who should get good cards get cards but the rating is terrible and there are also some cards that should be in the game like TBT emeka okafor
Once he gets MVP 2015-2016, He Will get a Diamond card
@JJ_Walker Steph is one of the best three point shooters ever he doesnt ball hog he averages 6.7 assists rounds to 7 assist per game. I don't see lebron getting the MVP award Curry is in his prime right now and averages 30.1 points per game
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo overated 96 playmaking he averages 6 assists per game cmon 2k
If you think Curry isn't good, than look at this and shut the fuck up:
30.1 ppg
1st anonymous MVP of all-time
best player on the best regular season team(73-9)
402 3PM
2 time MVP
2015 NBA Champion
3 time all-star
all-rookie first team
2 time western conference champion(2015, 2016)
#1 ALL TIME PER
#1 in the NBA box plus/minus
#1 in PPG
#1 in 3PM
#2 in Adjusted FG% behind DeAndre Jordan
#3 Points Per Shot behind Jordan and Howard
#3 in 2PT FG%
#4 in 3PT FG%
On Defense:
(Chris Paul as Example since he is one of the best pg defenders right now)
Curry: 1.29 DRPM Paul: 0.90 DRPM
When the defender:
ISO FG%:
Curry: 29% Paul: 41%
Spot-up FG%:
Curry: 26% Paul: 33%
PnR Ball Handler FG%:
Curry: 40% Paul: 45%
im suprised curry's defense is still over 80 after the way irving exposed him in the finals
I dont care what his ratings are, as long as his 3PT shot and layup stay over a 90, im happy :)
Wow, he's only three points below the greatest point guard of all time...
Per 35mins, hes averaging nearly DOUBLE the PPG of Magic's greatest ever scoring season. Also, 3 points is a lot in 2k ratings. Its the difference between Russel Westbrook and Kyrie Irving.
Show 7 replies...Yea but Magic was a true point guard so he wasn't focused on scoring tho
What's a true point guard? That's like saying Cousins isn't a true centre because he shoots 3s. The word yiu're looking for is traditional. Yes, ye isn't a traditional PG. But he's something Magic or Stockton or Oscar or Payton never were.
He's unique, in a brilliant way.
Well the only thing that doesn't make you a true center is if you cant grab boards. I think you meant to say PF since they basically can do everything on offense. i mean i dont dislike curry. if he was a SG he would be my favorite player of all time... but i hold the PG position and the tradition of it very close to my heart so thats why i use the term of tradition PG
You aren't trying to say Kyrie is bad, are you?
ikr, because cover athlete and Warriors hype
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Magic is still definitely better because of his defense, passing, and awards, but Curry has some crazy statistics:
#1 ALL TIME PER
#1 in the NBA box plus/minus
#1 in PPG
#1 in 3PM
#2 in Adjusted FG% behind DeAndre Jordan
#3 Points Per Shot behind Jordan and Howard
#3 in 2PT FG%
#4 in 3PT FG%
On Defense:
Curry: 1.29 DRPM Paul: 0.90 DRPM
When the defender:
ISO FG%:
Curry: 29% Paul: 41%
Spot-up FG%:
Curry: 26% Paul: 33%
PnR Ball Handler FG%:
Curry: 40% Paul: 45%
It's like this with every modern player, not just Curry. 2K forgets the past very well.
Forget the past!? 2K overrate past players, MJ has an 89 3pointer, Magic Johnson has overrated defence considering he wasn't quick enough to guard the fast point guards of the league but 98 lateral quickness lol. John Stockton has 96 overall defending which is stupid. Every legend in the game got either a fair rating or overrated except Wilt and Oscar Robertson. Players like 06' DWade, MVP Rose, etc should be rated higher
MJ has a 89 3PT in his reward card. As someone pointed out, if you collected every card, you would want the equivalent of shaq shooting free-throws very well and having a good midrange. If you want to make the comparison, then use the actual cards and not the reward cards.
But anyway, why I said what I did was that historic players vs. current players ovr are very different. For example, Anthony Davis should not be equivalent with '91 Magic and the two best scottie pippens. He's good, but not that good. You feel me? Sure, many historic players have weird ratings, but overall, the good players of today have the same stats as the great players of yesterday.
No, magic locked down Jordan in the playoffs. I wasn't there to watch it but I have looked at the tape. And John Stockton leads the NBA with the most alltime steals.
he will be over 95 by end of the year
Higher than LeBron :(
ikr its stupid
Show 13 replies...How? If you have been watching them play this season it isn't even comparable. Curry is playing so much better than LeBron that to be only 1 overall higher than him is actually a disgrace to what Curry has been doing. And don't yell at me and call me a bandwagon either, my favorite team is the Lakers and my favorite player is Kobe.
But Curry is not improving, he is having consistent games. It's not like every game Curry is having he sets a new season high. I have him in my fantasy basketball and what he does is he sometimes has about 40 point, might go down to about 25 points (still high scoring however not great for his standards) and go up to 30 points. Just because of this 23-0 and consistently improving streak doesn't Curry is getting better! I swear 2k are such bandwagons.
I think it's more when they made his original card they didn't give him the stats he deserved, he's not improving he's just showing 2K that they were wrong in the first place.
2k factored in his 30-40 point games because he had plenty of them last year. LeBron was rated higher because he had a better performance in the finals while Curry didn't. If anything LeBron should slightly go down because he's having slightly worse games. I'm hoping LeBron goes up to a 96 later in the year while Curry goes down to a 93 because he exhausted himself early on. If they improve Curry's defence next and make him a 97, I am going to rage so hard. But for now I'm not too angry as long as he isn't as good as MVP Wilt.
I don't think Curry will exhaust himself because he's been able to rest in the 4th quarter a lot.
Good point. Just got to hope for an injury or something!
Yeah seriously I agree, I like LeBron more but I still know Curry has played way better this season. I honestly hate Curry cuz he pisses me off on how good he is, but as of right now he is the best in the NBA and should, by all means, be higher than LeBron.
LeBron deserves his rating, but i think the 3pt mechanics in the game should be reinvented for curry because beyond 30 feet he is shooting more than 47% from that range on i think 30 attempts, like his attempts from the logo and shit, and 3 point shooting should have a higher weight in the ratings system based on how the best NBA teams are the best 3 point shooting teams
First Diamond in game. Whoah
hes not a diamond
Show 8 replies...He should be shouldn`t he? 95+ overall right?
How embarrassing from the site's #1 not to know his stuff.
TBH, 2K will do as much as they can to not make him a diamond. He'll just get better and better stats but they won't improve his overall to a 96
They already have he has more stats than diomond Steve Nash
Show 2 replies...They can't not upgrade him if he keeps going off for 40 or more every other game surely?
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yeah, because basketball is all about who scores the most
Curry is the number 1 player
Harden number 2
George number 3
Durant number 4
LeBron number 5
Current Lineup need suggestions on who to pick up...
Starters Bench
John Wall Kyrie Irving
ROTY MJ Klay Thompson
Paul George Gerald Green/Melo
Anthony Davis Kevin Love
Demarcus Cousins Deandre Jordan
I have about 350k who should I pick up? I was thinking Dynamic Curry cause he should go up to a diamond and his price will probably go crazy high, but i'm not sure if I want to spend the majority of my MT on one player.
Get a decent SF. Someone like LeBron or Durant. If you want you could spend a lot on dynamic PG tho coz he's gonna go up the way he's playing
Gonna be the first diamond available in the game.. With the way he's been playing, he deserves it. His passing stats are still slightly overrated however...
His defense should be upped (plez dont shoot me). His stats this season (e.g defensive plus/minus) are greatly improved.
Show 1 reply...everything is overrated with Curry
Show 36 replies...That's definitely not true. He's shooting over 46 percent from 3 (best in the NBA), has the best PPG, and the best plus/minus, all while averaging nowhere near the most minutes.
so you're telling me Curry's better than LeBron by two overalls?
Small forwards get lower overalls that other positions, but yes, that's what I'm saying. The Cavs aren't undefeated, and this time people can't blame it on injuries.
a basketball team is made of 13 players
Yes, it is. What's your point...
my point is that Warriors are way more than just Curry
Ah I see, and you are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct
You can be successful with 2 amazing players though, not usually, bit it's happened before, look at what Kobe and Shaq did, I'm not saying the other guys on that team sucked, but besides Robert Horry and Eddie Jones who on that team was worth.... well anything?
2000s Lakers had a lot more than Shaq and Kobe. Horry made alot of clutch shots, a bit like Iggy
Exactly! Steph Curry has no one else except draymond green and klay thompson is ok! harrison barnes and iggy are nothing special and andrew bogut sucks! and everyone else on the team is mediocre as shit. Steph curry and draymond carry the squad, and mostly curry.
Warriors are the deepest team in the NBA lol they have a better bench than the 76ers starters... Draymond and Klay are both All Star caliber players, if you disagree you're just in denial. Iggy is a former all star and had the best plus/minus of any bench player last season. Barnes averages almost 14 ppg, much more than J.R. Smith. Barbosa is a former 6th man of the year and a great shooter. Ezeli is a fantastic dunker, blocker, and rebounder- he leads the NBA in dunks by a long shot this season. Bogut is also an excellent blocker and a great passer for a big man. Shawn Livingston is tall and is great at posting up on smaller PG's. Even though Curry is averaging 32 PPG, Harden is averaging 29 PPG and the Rockets have a LOSING RECORD, while the Warriors are still undefeated. Sorry, but stats and logic completely disprove what you are saying.
The 76ers starters are bad. And klay isn't all-star caliber, and draymond barely is. It doesn't matter if iggy is a former all-star, I don't give a shit about the past. Barbosa former 6th man, again I don't care about the past. Ezeli isn't good whatsoever, he isn't leading in dunks, not even close (plus that isn't an important stat). Bogut is a decent passer, and is a good blocker (none of that really helps them a whole lot. Sorry but a lot of the shit u said either doesn't matter, or isn't true, so shut the fuck up. And almost 14 ppg is nothing to be too happy about when you start. It's just average/
Warriors have the perfect mix. Proably the best bench in the league
Im a warriors fan. I think -
-curry's defense and passing are overrated, but he is amazing at ballhandling and shooting
-draymond's defense is overrated, but his passing and shooting are underrated
-the warriors bench is underrated. better that the 76ers starting 5 lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ5jC1SH1WI&ab_channel=NBA
If you don't like the warriors successes, or don't like the warriors in general, that is PERFECTLY FINE. but that is no reason to discredit a team that is 23-0 and reigning champs. (to be fair, some warriors bandwagoners are pretty annoying, just like with the heat back in '12)
"just average" offensively for a playmaking and defensive specialist like Bogut is pretty damn good. And yes, defense and passing do actually matter quite a bit in the game of basketball.
By the "past doesn't matter" logic, I would have lebron, steph, and kd as my top 3 players all time. I would think drose is a horrible player. The past is very important, that is why all these players get paid in lucrative deals - they look at their PAST STATS to estimate how they will preform in the future.
Draymond Green is 7th in assists (was in 3rd 4 games ago), only one of 2 SF's in the top 35. He has also improved on his three this year to 38%. He's not just good because of his defense, which I honestly think is a bit overrated.
Yes, I will admit that, besides his 8/13 3PT, 39 pt game, he hasn't been doing all that great, and shouldn't be an all star this season.
Harrison barnes and iggy have never been flashy, but always consistent enough to pick up the team when everyone else ain't doing so great (because sometimes the warriors offense just cant put the ball in. it sucks, but it happens sometimes). In times like that, they turn to barnes, iggy, or steph.
you're either misinformed, salty, or both. If you don't like a team and someone disagrees, your arguments shouldn't be
-"I don't care about the past"
-passing and defense "doesn't help a whole lot"
-"Sorry but a lot of the shit u said either doesn't matter, or isn't true, so shut the fuck up."
I don't think you've ever watched a regular season warriors game in your life if you think Green and Curry carry the team.
They have the second highest bench fg%, and apparently offense is all that matters.
Honestly, just keep firin'. I like this kind of stuff. I want to see another argument u come up with that I agree with, because the stats dont lie, and if you are right, you are right. I will concede. But until then, just saying the warriors are trash besides green and curry isn't a great argument. You can do better than that, right? I'm sure there is something. I have one in my mind right now, a weakness in the warriors that, while not too exploitable, has shot them in the foot many times. :P
also sorry for the wall of text
I'm saying mainly they're good because of Steph. I didn't want to get into this argument at all, my only point was about this kid who said Steph doesn't deserve a diamond. The only point I'm trying to make at all is that he indeed deserves a diamond, and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
lol, I feel you. The warriors are an amazing team with him. Without him they'd be a bit like the bulls without jordan, though - a great coach and a deep enough bench to still succeed, even if it isn't at a championship caliber.
Yeah, but when you think about it every team needs a star no matter how deep there bench is. And the Warriors just happen to be lucky enough to (IMO) have as good a star as you can get at this level.
Yep. You need a bench to succeed (look at the 90's warriors. 3 of the best players in the league, but no bench. Couldn't win.), unless you have someone like Lebron, who is best iso-ing all game, and is a one man show, albeit a very, very good one.
His defense is in no way overrated, cuz he isn't bad on defense and an 84 defensive rating isn't really that great. I mean it's good, but it's not best in the league by any means. Andhis playmaking is only a 91, and playmaking has no relations with the numbers. His ball control is ridiculous so that could even be higher. His passing IQ could maybe be a bit lower, but his passing accuracy is ridiculous. Passing accuracy is based on if you get the ball to where you want it to be. That's why I'm saying IQ could be a bit lower. His crazy behind the backs and all that shit are insanely accurate, his team misses a lot of shots off nice passes simply because sometimes they just aren't expecting it.
Oh wait! Ezeli is third in dunks! Too bad he's averaging 8 points a game, and dunks really don't matter when u get the ball wide open in the post and do a standing dunk. Centers do it all the time fam, it doesn't matter...
he's a bench player, former starter as a rookie. He could start on many teams if he was a bit better at rebounding - he always reaches with one arm for the ball. That's his only major flaw on defense.
why the fuck you lying? why you always lying?
Dude you sound like an idiot just stop
Is it possible to miss threes with this guy? This is a serious question btw!
Deserved Diamond, having a historical season but how come his defence is so high, he's above average at best. And I jsut find it wierd how an MVP LeBron only has 88 passing accuracy and dynamix LeBron has 84 passing accuracy and low passing stats even though he's averaging more assists then and now and LeBron 's a great passer, still a deserved diamond tho
Someone that has the card of XBOX ONE and looking to get rid of it. Put it up the block for 400,000MT. Everyone lists their's for like 500,000+ and not selling
Not true bro. I bought one for 420k this morning. They're not going to drop any lower than that in value unless he drops to an amethyst
Show 1 reply...How this card is better than A.I, Orlando Shaq and the same as TBT Kobe and LBJ I don't even know
if you don't know, how about doing some research. ask Zach Lowe
Show 1 reply...Um Shaq is the most dominant player since Wilt and TBT LBJ for Cleveland was when LBJ was in his prime Curry is not as good as that!
As a Warriors fan, he deserves mid 80's passing. He's a great ball handler, he deserves like 95, but passing accuracy, IQ, and maybe vision should be a bit lower.
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Show 18 replies...I agree
I think his ball handling is fine but his passing vision should go down to an 85-87
I entirely agree other than the accuracy. He's pretty precise with his passing. High 80s for that in my opinion.
I think the accuracy and ball control can be the high 90s, and other two low 90s/high 80s
But fr 2k making it like he's a better passer than like Magic and all them, and he got handles like AI... not quite
Curry's handles are insane. He might not be as fancy as Kyrie, but he doesn't lose the ball like Kyrie while dribbling. His IQ and Vision should be dropped a bit though, he isn't THIS good of a passer.
Yeah but he's got better ball control than AI, and AI was a better ball handler
And also Curry averages 1 more TO per game than Kyrie... Kyrie got some of the best handles EVER
Turnovers dont always come from ballhandling haha. And the issue is A.I's is too low.
Yeah but it's the same both ways... Kyrie doesn't necessarily lose the ball more than Curry, he's got better handles.
You definitely don't watch basketball... Kyrie loses the ball while dribbling a lot more, he tries to be way to flashy and it doesn't work a lot of the time.
2.3 turnovers per game is good for a player like him...
Case in point, all you are doing is looking at stats that don't really even describe what I'm talking about since you don't watch basketball. Losing the ball while dribbling isn't the only way to get turnovers.
You are just ruining your own point then... if that's the case then Kyrie has even less TO per game. I guess the fact is Curry has better ball "control" while Kyrie has better "handles" however you wanna put that. They don't really have a handles stat it's just the certain animation, which Kyrie is one of the best in the game. And when you say he tries to be too fancy, it works alot of the time.
kyrie proved he was better than curry in handles and curry proved he had a bad neck since he was choking harder than padme from star wars
Kyrie does have better handles bruh way better.
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Lol you're just salty... I've been a fan since well before Curry was even drafted...
anthony davis has more attributes than stephen curry and is 91 curry is 97. Lebron has almost 300 better than curry so i guess all you need is scoring to do well in the NBA now (smh)
I watch Warriors almost every game and it does bother me sometimes the stupid things Curry will do when he is such a great player. Like against the Clippers, 4th quarter in the clutch and twice he came forward with the ball and his simple pass not even near the bucket got intercepted twice.
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Show 4 replies...Except they won
If only he had 99 passing accuracy instead of only 98. He is after all already soooo much better than Stockton as a passer! /s
Was that sarcasm? Cuz if it wuz, I agree with you.
It was. =) I have learned that people use "/s" to denote sarcasm on reddit, so that's why I wrote it, too. I wasn't sure, if people were familiar with it. =) Cool that you also agree.
Limitless Range on bronze, us Curry fans would disagree.
it maybe called playmaking but the stats for playmaking are stuff he is good at
Cmon 2k where that update. Curry bout to be a 98
Because it's 2K. What else do you expect?
It's a little bit higher per 36, and I don't think assists are as good of an indicator as the eye test. I do agree with you, as he makes some silly decisions (and some fantastic ones).
I know ...........................................
Its been downgraded
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Show 4 replies...Sucks. Spent 420k for his diamond. Next day he goes to 95 and isn't selling for 300k
Well he 97 now...
Well I did comment seven weeks ago...
do u still have him
It's because in a way he's like jason williams. He doesn't get assists often, but when he does, its gorgeous.
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Show 19 replies...I don't care how flashy his passes are. He is 21st in the league in assists per game with 5.9. How is that good enough for a 95 playmaking?
Because playmaking isn't about numbers. Playmaking is about how good he is at doing it. He doesn't mess up passes. He doesn't do it all the time, but every time he passes it's something good. And as of right now he has better handles than anyone in the NBA.
Steph Curry is averaging almost 4 Turnovers while only getting 6 assist so he does mess up passes and he messes them up pretty often
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a player with 95 play making doesn't average 4 turnovers with just 6 assists
Considering he touches the ball on every possesion it's fine. He also has better ball control than most every player. His passing ABILITY is great. There is no stat here that says how many times they do it, just how well they do it.
so what what trying to say is that Curry is better at "doing it" then Oscar Robertson, Jason Kidd, Rajon Rondo, John Stockton, Jerry West, and and Isiah Thomas even though Curry is averaging WAY less assist with WAY more turnovers
No, those people just have wildly underrated cards. Watch some videos of curry and check the standings and you'll see how much of a playmaker he is.
Jeremy is right, the other cards are underrated or the playmaking stat has not been made accurately relative between past and present players this year. Don't you guys realize that not all his turnovers come from passing the ball? Also, the system that the warriors play involves using draymond as a facilitator so curry can score, but Curry can still make a great play. Matthew dellavadova has the best turnover ratio as of now this year and do u want to make a case that he is a better facilitator than curry?
It's not just about plain assist numbers. He leads the league in numerous other metric (and non-metric) playmaking categories, one of them being secondary assists. Because GS moves the ball around so much and Curry is constantly being double-teamed it's his first pass out of the double team that leads to the assist, so you can't just look at plain assist number to come up with playmaking stats.
ok this may be completely irrelevant but i got the diamond stephen curry from the locker code so im not sure whether to sell him or keep him because im not sure whether his value will go down or up
Good playmakers don't need crazy numbers. In case you haven't noticed the Warriors haven't lost yet, and Curry is carrying the team. Good playmakers do whatever it takes to get the win. Playmaking isn't about the number that shows the assists. The only place where playmaking shows up is the standings.
You need to consider how the Warriors offense operates. He brings the ball up the court and usually initiates. But it's an offense that distributes the ball and swings it around a lot. He often gives it up to someone else to then weave through off-ball screens. Or runs P'n'R and dumps to screener who then gets the assist (look at Dray's assist numbers this year).
In the GSW offense, assists get distributed as the ball does. Steph isn't a ball-dominant PG. He'll never have a gaudy assist average.
But he clearly has the passing and vision to dish plenty of dimes, if he were in a system that enabled that.
@Basketballguru This man ^ is the real guru
6.7, with one of the best pass to assists
He was averaging less than 6 when I posted the comment... He is a good passer but 96 playmaking is just too much.
um well the warriors are the best at pass to assists
His low assist per game this season is why his passing vision is not that high, doesn't mean he doesn't make smart and accurate passes though.
I made that comment before his passing vision got downgraded, I agree with his stats now.
EXACTLY!!! if they take anything down it should be his vision obviously not looking for the open man when youre taking a three every play
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Show 18 replies...If you think Curry takes a 3 every play, I don't think you watch the Warriors lol. With Curry's 3pt percentage and the Warriors average possessions per game, if he shot a 3 every possession he would AVERAGE almost 150 points per game.
I do watch the warriors. Also it was an exaggeration.... but then i again i watched curry pull a reggie miller multiple times by pump faking a mid than stepping behind the arc to take a 3. Also i dont apreciate how people watch steph miss an open layup then run away while his teammates get a rebound and pass it to him for 3 then all the bandwagons say hes the greatest.
His PER is the greatest of all time right now, making a few bad plays isn't unique to him. Jordan and Wilt weren't perfect either
exactly, im just saying people ignore his imperfections im critical of ALL players including my personal favorites
Not necessarily. I would think that the NBA's defense to some extent would most likely double team and get the ball out of Curry's hands if he went off. I like your mathematical skills, but your logic/reasoning is not as great. He doesn't take a 3 every play though. That I agree with you. I still hate Curry though. Mostly cause of the bandwagons. #ProudSpursFanSince2000
Yeah, I'm a Warriors fan and I get pissed off sometimes at how much some bandwagon fans overrate him.
Amen to that.
So I'm guessing you don't like the fact 2k disgraced the Godmiral with a 90 OVR? lol
Interesting fact: Robinson once had a quadruple double.
Yep, one of four I believe (ever), and the most recent to ever happen
Yap. =D
GODMIRAL!!! David Robinson the first player I ever watched play basketball. Too bad I was born at a time where he was going to retire in around 5 years.
I appreciate that. #ProudLakersFanSince1990. No one liked the Warriors until Curry went off early 2015. There are WAY too many Golden State bandwagons. Its so uncommon to see someone like the same team these years because the Heat/Warriors
The problem is that if u said u liked the warriors before curry was good, u r accused of lying. Ive liked curry since Thompson was drafted but I cant even bring that up. Also why hate a player because he's the best or mainstream? Jordan in the 90's couldn't have had this much hate?
Did I say I hated Curry? I'm just saying no one liked him before he went off.
And I'm arguing that saying nobody liked him is too much of a blanket statement and also why do we like players? Usually because they come from our home towns, play for our favourite teams or because they are great. Nobody likes players unless they have at least some success
i liked the warriors in the we believe days with jason richardson and don nelson.... :((((
Nobody liked the Warriors or Curry since 2015? Can confirm that isn't true, you have living evidence right here. It's clearly not true nobody liked him before that, maybe for most people outside Cali, but that statement is severely misinformed.