'75 Bob McAdoo amethyst card

'75 Bob McAdoo

Historic / Clippers Franchise


General information

Theme
Historic
Position
C / PF
Added
Release
Height
6'9" (205cm)
Weight
210lbs (95kg)
Age
24
Plays
P&R Point P&R Wing P&R Roll Man

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'75 Bob McAdoo amethyst card

94 Overall

82 Outside scoring

  • 92 Standing shot mid
  • 89 Moving shot mid
  • 35 Standing shot 3pt
  • 30 Moving shot 3pt
  • 98 Shot IQ
  • 81 Free throw
  • 98 Offensive consistency

94 Inside scoring

  • 97 Standing shot close
  • 96 Moving shot close
  • 97 Standing layup
  • 85 Driving layup
  • 90 Standing dunk
  • 83 Driving dunk
  • 45 Contact dunk
  • 95 Draw foul
  • 94 Post control
  • 92 Post hook
  • 90 Post fadeaway
  • 98 Hands

84 Athleticism

  • 78 Speed
  • 77 Acceleration
  • 79 Vertical
  • 85 Strength
  • 98 Stamina
  • 98 Hustle
  • 96 Overall durability

61 Playmaking

  • 69 Ball control
  • 58 Passing accuracy
  • 57 Passing vision
  • 75 Passing IQ

88 Defending

  • 80 On-ball defense IQ
  • 92 Low post defense IQ
  • 94 Help defense IQ
  • 84 Pick & roll defense IQ
  • 77 Lateral quickness
  • 85 Pass perception
  • 90 Reaction time
  • 65 Steal
  • 94 Block
  • 96 Shot contest
  • 90 Defensive consistency

96 Rebounding

  • 95 Offensive rebound
  • 96 Defensive rebound
  • 95 Boxout
  • 3688 Total attr.

Updates OVR POS INS OUT PLY ATH DEF REB
02/03/16 94 C PF 94 82 61 84 88 96
01/06/16 88 C PF 87 74 61 75 85 94
10/27/15 88 C PF 87 74 61 75 85 94

Outside Scoring

Deadeye

Can knock down contested shots better than most.

Limitless Range

Can knock down three pointers from deep better than most.

Fade Ace

Excels at making fadeaway jumpers.

Shot Creator

Known for making tough shots off the dribble after creating space to shoot.

Inside Scoring

Spin Lay-In

Excels at making spin layups.

Hop-Stepper

Makes hop-step layups at a higher % than others.

King Of Euros

Shines in his ability to make euro step layups.

Acrobat

Can change his shot in air and attempt difficult shots with few consequences.

Relentless Finisher

A player who can take physical punishment on contact shots near the rim without severely impacting his energy.

Post Hook Specialist

Known for his ability to make hook shots from the post at a high percentage.

Playmaking

Flashy Passer

Known for throwing accurate flashy passes.

Pick & Roll Maestro

Throws accurate passes and knocks down shots off the screen at a high percentage.

Lob City Passer

Completes alley oop passes at a high rate.

Dimer

Elite passer known for hitting teammates in position to score.

Athleticism

One Man Fast Break

Excels at taking the ball coast to coast on a fastbreak.

Defending

Interceptor

More adept at stealing passes than others

Pick Pocket

Known for his ability to strip the ball from a ball-handler.

Rebounding

Offensive Crasher

An elite defensive rebounder known for chasing rebounds out of his area.

Defensive Crasher

An elite offensive rebounder known for his ability to get through and around boxouts.

Personality

Prime Time

Elevates his play in games of great significance.

Volume Shooter

A high volume of shots can heat him up but a lack of shots can make him cold.

Swagger

Gets himself going by making big plays.

Expressive

Has no problem expressing his feelings

Dunks

  • 100 Standing dunk
  • 75 Driving dunk
  • 35 Flashy dunk
  • 75 Alley-oop
  • 76 Putback dunk
  • 25 Crash

Layups

  • 5 Standing layup
  • 45 Driving layup
  • 25 Spin layup
  • 20 Hop step layup
  • 0 Euro step layup
  • 0 Floater

Jump shooting

  • 82 Step through shot
  • 0 Shot under basket
  • 5 Shot close
  • 0 Shot close left
  • 0 Shot close middle
  • 0 Shot close right
  • 20 Shot mid
  • 50 Shot 3pt
  • 50 Contested jumper
  • 70 Stepback jumper
  • 30 Spin jumper
  • 50 Transition pull up 3pt
  • 55 Use glass

Drive setup

  • 5 Triple threat pump fake
  • 5 Triple threat jab step
  • 85 Triple threat idle
  • 55 Triple threat shoot
  • 44 Setup with sizeup
  • 25 Setup with hesitation
  • 67 No setup dribble

Driving

  • 80 Drive
  • 47 Drive right
  • 25 Driving crossover
  • 25 Driving spin
  • 0 Driving step back
  • 0 Driving half spin
  • 0 Driving double crossover
  • 0 Driving behind the back
  • 0 Driving dribble hesitation
  • 25 Driving in and out
  • 50 No driving dribble move
  • 70 Attack strong on drive

Freelance

  • 99 Shoot
  • 68 Touches
  • 0 Roll vs. pop

Post game

  • 39 Post up
  • 20 Post shimmy shot
  • 5 Post face up
  • 15 Post back down
  • 0 Post aggressive backdown
  • 0 Shoot from post
  • 50 Post hook left
  • 50 Post hook right
  • 50 Post fade left
  • 50 Post fade right
  • 5 Post up and under
  • 5 Post hop shot
  • 5 Post step back shot
  • 65 Post drive
  • 0 Post spin
  • 0 Post drop step
  • 0 Post hop step

Passing

  • 50 Dish to open man
  • 80 Flashy pass
  • 35 Alley oop pass

Defense

  • 72 Pass interception
  • 55 Take charge
  • 80 On-ball steal
  • 25 Contest shot
  • 25 Block shot
  • 38 Foul
  • 35 Hard foul
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    35

    Gonna abuse that limitless range and 35 standing three combination

    8

    88 overall? 35-15 in his prime, MVP over Kareem, Cowens, Walton and Unseld. According to 2K Lamarcus Aldridge did something that impressive last season, funny that I can't remember it.

    0

    HOO, you' s right

    0

    For my sake i hope he stays a gold because i used him last year at Pf and he played really well has got a great mid range and defensive stats and can get more boards then he should.Would be perfect for the 3 gold lineups. This card will be a sleeper card trust me if he stays gold!

    -14

    When are you gonna realize, overall isn't based on stats, its based on their ratings, and tbh I can't see whats wrong about his ratings

    5

    ??? He should have higher mid range, higher defense, higher post ratings and higher rebounding.

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    -4

    Rebounding is really high (deservedly) already, mid range and post moves should probably be better, but that will only get him to 89 maybe 90 overall. Just because he was an amazing, underrated player doesn't mean his card should have a crazy overall, these attributes might be a little low but not by much. Even if he had all those improvements some of which he doesn't really deserve the overall wouldn't be much better...

    0

    Well then the same should apply to Kareem then (eg 99 post hook and average everything else) because 1975 Mcadoo was basically Kareem with more post moves and a mid, but obviously without the hook (not that he didn't have one).

    -4

    Yeah, a lot of cards dont really reflect real ability *cough cough* BILL RUSSELL*cough cough* but I think this one is somewhat accurate

    0

    None of the stats are ridiculously low, but most of them are slightly too low. In all honesty only a few cards have stupid stats (Russell, Jordan, Bird, Kobe etc.)

    4

    he would have shot threes but they give him a 35, yet they give bob cousy an 81.

    3

    They instituted the 3-pointer four years later and he went 3-24 from the 3-point line, after that he pretty much stopped trying them. Went 3-37 in his career.

    1

    But still cousy never shot one at all

    2

    Has anyone played with him yet? Cuz there arent any reviews in yet! Just saw he was cheap yesterday but thats only cuz all 2k cheesers only buy guards if they have a 3 and big men if theyre 7 footers...I think Mcadoo would be one of the best PFs in 2k! Great inside scoring! actually almost as good as Shaq! BUT he's also got a deadly fade, a deadly midrange and some speed! Would really think about pickin him up! Any good opinions?

    5

    Bought him yesterday because I didn't like Russell.
    Well... McAdoo is simply the best center I've tried this year with Moments KAT. (I play Towns at the 4, Bob at the 5, because Towns can shoot and play like a stretch SF/PF with an amazing size.)
    McAdoo grabs every rebound, is a beast at scoring inside (except that he can't do a standing dunk, I don't know why) and what a speedy C !
    Of course he won't suit your playstyle if you're searching for a tower at the center position but he'll be, at least, the perfect PF !

    4

    I haven't played with him, but I do agree on those points you made. I think people are going to sleep on this card, He looks like one of the best offensive amethysts I have seen. For a center he has a 85 driving layup and can hit his free throws as well with a 95 draw foul. He has great rebounding combined with his vertical. I think this card will end up as a steal for whoever is willing to try him out.

    1

    If you don't care about the size, he's perfect :-)

    1

    @Klayyyyyy Happy now? :D

    1

    Yay!

    1

    That inside scoring is INSANE

    1

    Play with him in gauntlet. .It's a very good one.Can make everything with his speed.Shoot inside and mid range.Good defense against O'neal diamond.

    0

    Good defense? he is weaker than LeBron. How can he keep out shaq?

    0

    Because he can move very quickly. So when I play with him against o'neal , I use his speed.

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    0

    I said keep out shaq, meaning defending shaq. All the speed in the world doesn't guard a all star shaq backing down.

    0

    his strengh and his speed gives you enough time to enable to keep Shaq in a uncomfortable level of inside shooting .
    That was why I could stop shaq...

    0

    his strength is 85. Lebron is stronger than this dude at 89 strength. shaq is 99 strength. The only way bob could stop shaq in this situation is to either back off and contest the dunk or shot as best as possible and hope for the best or spam the steal button when shaq spins or drives towards the hoop.

    It is literally impossible for bob to survive in a back down situation with shaq even with a strength shoe.

    0

    Effectively you 're right
    However In a back situation, even if shaq can go near the rim , it's not the best center with the best post moves. In fact , if you have the speed and if you react very quickly , you raise your arms, and he can't shoot easily.That 's why I say it's a good defender ..

    0

    I agree that shaq is not the best center with post moves at all and yes bob can react quickly by raising his arms, but his height, vert, strength isn't that great for a center that's why I consider wilt, and russell as the best paint defenders.

    0

    effectively..but russell is a diamond and not an amethyst player.. it's not the same prize ;)
    for wilt , I can 't say.

    0

    Well I am basing this off of play and statistics, if you filter out pf and c Russell is the best defender. Wilt is taller and has the same athleticism as bill which adds to him being a godly defender especially if you give him a 9 vert shoe. It's literally no comparison since no pf or c has Russell's athleticism and defense combination, or wilt's defense, athleticism, and 7'1 combination.

    1

    Wow! This card looks amazing! I want him on my team! Spectacular rebound, defense, and mis range!

    1

    Which badges to put on McAdoo?
    The one I bought has Brick Wall and Screen Outlet already added, so three spots left.

    I am considering Up and Under, Eraser, Microwave, Chase down, bank is open, transition finisher, Post Lockdown, Scrapper or Bruiser.

    Pick three. I need help! Also, I'm MT middle class so the most expensive badges I've listed (Microwave + Transition finisher) are a tough pill to swallow. He comes with a good spread of badges, but he's missing lots of good ones.

    1

    I get him for 43k. He is definatly a top 5 big men in 2k16. He is fast, good shooter, rebound monster and a great protector. He can defend nearly ever position because of his speed. With goöd badges he is insane an feels like a diamond player. Every player should give him a chance on his roster

    Rate my lineup? http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/178423/ogloc50

    0

    I'm agree with you. An undersize center with a great speed, and good moves. So you can take him in PF. He can make great play. I use it like first substitute.

    1

    He is my PF too. I think it is better to put him there bcoz there arent ao much alternatives in this game. He is better than KG and Davis on PF. His rebounding is compred to Davis much better

    1

    Gonna be underrated

    0

    Does he work well as a 'Pick and Alley Oop' center like Dwight/DeAndre?

    1

    He should be able to catch lobs really well. Just check his alley oop tendencies because, for example, onyx ray allen last year had 75 dunk, but 0 alley oop tendencies and he couldn't catch lobs.

    0

    how much is he on the auction

    0

    His overall is down because he is undersized 2K does that

    0

    95 minimum!

    3

    close lol this card has everything except a 3pt shot

    3

    best card in the game haha

    0

    Didn't he have a really good post fade?

    0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQ3unu2YAQ

    0

    Not to sound arrogant, but watch some videos :)

    0

    I meant i thought he had a good post fade and in the video he does

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    0

    OH, i read it wrong, sorry

    0

    Haha all good

    -1

    don't u dare talk to Vinsanity that way

    0

    STFU I'll shank your ass!

    0

    this guy is a great pick-up. great mid, rebound, and defense!

    0

    I really liked last years card, I would totally pick this guy up for the right price, his stats are beastly.

    0

    Come to my squad and be my PF :>

    0

    HE WONT STANDING DUNK AT ALL , Just Layups Under and around the rim when Pressing R2+Square or Analog !!!!!!!! WTFFF

    0

    Check his tendencies they might not have updated them yet

    0

    they did and he still wont dunk :<

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    0

    That sucks thanks for letting me know i was going to get him but I want him to pipe on people lol

    0

    YEa u better wait a bit cause as of today his Tendencies are there just no dunkin animations

    0

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    -1

    just wanted to let you know I accidentally hit "report" instead of "reply" under your comment, I apologize...

    0

    I bought this card for 36,000 is that good?

    0

    This man shocked me. He has a fucking size-up that a point guard would do. This is a budget version of diamond Towns.

    0

    If you create him as a player and change his position to PF he's a 96 ovr

    -1

    Good stats, but 3pt too low.

    0

    He's old school that's why

    0

    But cousy got a 3 ball

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    0

    hes a center and pf he would get fired if he thought about shooting a 3 lol

    0

    Fired? an NBA player? I think they'd they get cut, or benched, but fired?

    -2

    How do you get this card?I cant find a single one on the auction house

    -3

    6'9 210 pounds lol. pretty skinny fella 2k!

    1

    Yeah but nba players fake their heights and weights nowadays...Lebron James isnt heavier than Ben Wallace lol :p 210 is plenty heavy, I agree it could be more for a 6'9 guy but then again its hard to be massive when ur so lean (Y)

    -3

    LeBron was at 275-280 in miami, they listed him at 265 but he said in an interview he was actually bigger than that. The only 2 players whos height is way off in 2k is KD who is 6'11" and Giannis Antetekumpo who is closer to 7'1" now

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    1

    If you actually think Lebron weighs 280 ur retarded. I lift more than Lebron, you can go check his max curls and presses online. No way in hell Lebron weighs anywhere close to 280. Just because he and the NBA say so doesnt make it right...

    -3

    Now no way. Look at LeBron in 2011-2012

    0

    Yeah as I mentioned in a comment somewhere else ive been next to Lebron in real life and I guarantee he's not 280...not even close. Ben Wallace is a true fucking tank and he weighs like 40 pounds less while being taller so it makes absolutely 0 sense. Trust me, Lebron isnt even buffer than some of the bigger shooting guards like Iggy or Prime Carter...everyone needs to stop believing that Lebron is some freight train massacre hulk -_- Still gets backed down by 37 year old Kobe but mkay bro...

    -3

    You caught feelings real fast hahaha and yes LeBron is 270-275 maybe 280 was a I'm exaggeration but if you think he was smaller than iggy or VC then you are the on who doesn't know what they are talking about.If you actually look at LeBron he was around 250 255 in Cleveland then gained weight when I'm miami going up to about 270

    0

    Caught feelings? Please learn to not talk incomprehensible bullshit. Im not saying he was smaller than them, im saying he was barely bigger. Also in comparison to you I actually have a real life comparison as Ive stood next to him and am quite a bit bigger than him yet weigh much less. If you cant see that Ben Wallace would weigh more than Lebron IRL then you are blind. Ben Wallace was a true monster. Also lebron is not 40 pounds lighter than Shaq lol...so please shut up

    -1

    but you never stood next to Ben Wallace IRL....

    -3

    Hahahah incomprehensible? Can you not read because I spoke clear English. And no shot in hell you're bigger then lebron, youd be a football player or in the NBA if that was the case, or you're just fat. I don't want to hear it... I really don't. I know people who are 260-265 and they are way smaller then LeBron. I already said I was semi exaggerating with 280 but 270 is what he was in miami. You can stand next to him all you want, take some pictures too bro but I'm more interested in his actual weight then if you got to stand next to him. Congrats lol.

    0

    Im done having a conversation with an idiot. Saying you speak clear english but still having a spelling mistake in that very sentence... Half the guys at my gym are bigger than him, you dont need to be a pro athlete lol...No need for congrats, I don't like Lebron one bit. Please go back to your cock gurgling of Lebrons obviously tiny dick and stop being a retard on a public site. Wont get you far in life. Lebron is half of Ben Wallace. Its not even close.

    -2

    My phones autocorrect is shit and it changes everything lol and you have to resort to insults for this argument but I have facts, LeBron who was listed at 250 his entire career, they never changed it since his got weighed his rookie year, which he only bulked up since then. Now to the idiot comment, I clearly know more about basketball then you, and know how to actually engage engage in a conversation. I do apologize for the errors I was typing in class so I didn't go back to fix them, you got the message though. I'm not even a LeBron fan but I hate ignorant people like you saying iggy is bigger then him lol. Ben Wallace was around 285, miami LeBron was 270. Cleaveland LeBron is 250 255. You're the one obviously on Ben Wallace dick.

    0

    resort to facts lol...the NBA are the ones who fake player heights and weights...everyone knows that...Ben Wallace was listed as 240 but I guess im wrong and uve got all the facts and Lebron is 280 like fucking young Shaq. Also the way your acting youre a little kid. Cant deal with insults.

    2

    I am a good 290 pounds and i don't shout about it.. sure i get like way too much pussy and i am increasing the worlds baby population every weekend, BUT don't hate me for it okay? I can't help being addicted to the bicep curl mate..

    0

    hahahahahhaa legend

    -1

    I'm pretty sure your argument at first was that 2k and the NBA boostheights and weights but my point was that they also undercut players, I.e. Antetekumpos height and KDs height along with Lebrons weight and even Ben Wallace because I know he wasn't 240 but if you think LeBron is under 265 or 270 in his prime you're joking yourself. I'm curious as to what you say LeBron weight is

    -1

    I never said Ben Wallace was under 240 he was like 280 but so was lebron, you really act like LeBron is a skinny person. As an example on a fastbreak there is not one player in the NBA that can intentionally foul him without him still getting a good layup. I honestly don't even understand your argument because it seems to me like you're saying Ben Wallace is a better player and heavier then lebron, both of which are false. LeBron was 275 and it you can't face the facts then we have to agree to disagree but you're wrong lol. Even comparing side by side 2012 LeBron was the same weight and arm size as Ben Wallace. And I can take insults but if you're gonna say them then message me so I can really get you tf outta here hahah I just don't curse in my sentences, shows your lack of intelligence.

    1

    Lol okay this has gone way too far...Ben Wallace has absolutely massive arms, dont kid yourself, weightlifters can really respect what Ben Wallace did during his career, Lebron barely lifts bro. He's just so hyped by the media and thats why dickriders like urself believe Lebron is an unstoppable force :p Im not even gonna respond to further comments because Im very close to asking you where u live so I can bash ur fucking head in. Handle that with care dude.

    -2

    What's even funnier is I started off having a normal debate and you got so heated your own argument didn't make sense. So thanks for this entertaing day lol. Just know, you're wrong Hahahah

    -2

    I looked up side by side photos and they are the same Hahahaha you literally ran around my questions. LeBron lifts but doenst need to as much because he's naturally a freak of nature who is huge lol. If you want to know you can and fly ohtbjere just for me to lock your ass go ahead hahah. Punk ass bitch

    2

    hahahhahaha omg you're literally the biggest pussy ive met on here. No you are wrong. You keep randomly saying ur right but ur not...another point: If lebron were 275 pounds he'd weigh as much as Wilt - ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!? wow. Yeah well ur too scared to tell me where u live so looks like i wont get to see ur bitch face.

    -2

    You don't realise height changes what you look like with weight so yes lol. Wilt was skinny for his height. If I could message you I would but come down to Philly bro hahaha you need to stay in your lane I was messing around with your dumbass all day and you got so hurt I can only imagine your anger issues in real life hahaha. You have the least amount of basketball iq I've ever seen. You think iggy who is 205 pounds at most weighs the same as LeBron which is baffeling, you don't get the concept that height effects weight and your apperance of said weight. In basically arguing with a small child that get a mad instead of having a normal debate.

    1

    hahhaa ur completely 100% stupid. Youre making up arguments out of thin air. Wilt is probably the strongest athlete to have ever played in the NBA. Ask the other people on this site. You have 0 likes on this page, your opinion doesnt even mean shit. Wilt would fuck Lebron in the ass. He would sit on him all day and Lefraud wouldnt do shit. Also in contrast to you im actually not a child. And as referenced numerous times on this site, I am currently running a firm and it's going very well. Actually have a large shipment going out to Philly and Chicago for the first time next month. Youre messing with the wrong person. Please go back to licking ur cunt moms retarded asshole. Fucking biggest Lebron dickrider ive ever met. Not surprising coming from a Philly guy. Havnt had a decent player in 10 years. Negative clues about basketball.

    -1

    And that's all I'm going to say about that. If you still pissy when you come out tell me lol I handle you on my day off

    -1

    Come out then you not shit anyway lol and wilt played against a bunch of smaller weak players he was great but if he played but he wouldn't be as great. I don't comment here all the time because inhale other stuff to do that's why I have 0 likes hahah. You focusing on the wrong stuff if you care about likes on here haha.
    But it's whatever you don't know me leave it at that in can garuntee I'd beat your ass of you that mad over facts. Like I said before stay in your lane bro

    1

    @Klayyyyyy @Black_Mamba_TR8 This guy ^ arguing that Wilt would be shit in todays league cuz he played against small and weak players and that Lebron weighs 280 pounds (more than Wilt, 40 pounds more than Big Ben tank Wallace) Im done with this shit. He's some little dude down in Philly who thinks he'd handle me on my off day. Ive had enough arguing about bullshit. Please continue for me (Y) Biggest media-blinded Lebron dickrider ive ever met. Ive argued this with facts and opinions a million times and i dont have the time to do it again for this douche.

    -2

    I said I was done but this irritated me. I never said hed be shit where did I say that lol. He was a known stat padder. I don't dick eat LeBron but if you think he weighs anything under 255 now and 275 in miami you're dumb. You never stated one fact in this whole argument while I can back everything I said up. You still think Ben Wallace was 240 he wasn't he was 280 and LeBron was 275 lol. You're so one sided you can't even open your Damn eyes.

    0

    Stat padder? Michael Jordan was the invaluable stat paddler who played against weak competition, not Wilt.

    0

    6 championships 6 finals MVPs in 6 appearances. Wilt only has 2 against the weakest competition ever. The 90a was the best period. I done with this site people obviously has 0 iq about anything basketball related.

    0

    New here? You clearly haven't seen my blatant proof Wilt was worth 3X as much as Jordan (in terms of wins added)

    You arguing rings? Smh, I'm done with people who have 0 IQ about simple logic. I.e that rings mean nothing when it comes to how good players are

    0

    Ok I don't care about rings but Jordan was the best ever hands down. He's the clutchest player ever and he took games over without trying. I've seen you comment about Wilt all the time and while you have valid points( way more then that other Dirk guy) I just don't see Wilt being better then Jordan. Wilt was great but he's not even the most dominant center, that's Shaq. Its now harder to win with more then triple the amount of teams and players in the league. As well as Jordan playing against countless hall of famers.everyone has their own opinion but as long as you respect Jordan and not say he was unvauluable to the team. I don't like Jordan or LeBron as much as you think I just respect their greatness, along with Wilt.

    1

    Haven't you seen my stat about wins added?

    I don't dislike or like Wilt or MJ more than any other player. Look at my Lakers Wilt comment.

    0

    *Unvaluable

    0

    Give some examples of Michael Jordan stat padding and it being unvaluable at that. MJ was by far the best player in NBA history during a time where he went against more hall of farmers than I can can count on my fingers. And even if he did stat pad you clearly don't watch basketball if you think his stats were unvaluable. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and think you were just trying to use a big word.

    0

    You're new here aren't you? I've explained this many times...

    0

    Oh wait different guys. I guess you're both new...

    0

    Yes I am new so can you explain 1 more time?

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    Here`s one explaination:

    Wilt joined the Warriors as a rookie and they won 17 more games, when he left they lost 32 more games. While when Jordan joined the Bulls they won 10 odd more games, then he got injured for a season they lost about 10 more games, then he came back again and averaged 37 PPG, but that was yet again only good enough for about 10 more wins... It didn`t get better in the championship era either, as you will probably know of the well known fact that when Jordan left the championship Bulls they only lost 2(!) more games. I`ve also got some interesting facts that show that when Jordan played well, the Bulls may have actually done worse:

    - Jordan had 5 career 60 point games. The Bulls record in those? 2-3... It is also worth noting that 4 of the games went to OT, you`d expect dominant wins, but nope (the none OT game was a loss BTW).

    - I got this one from J_Oak. He says in his main hate comment towards MJ (not that I agree with him going that far) that in the 1993 ECF the Bulls were down 2-0, and Jordan shot 3-18. In this context I remembered and immediately thought "wait. The Bulls were down 2-0, clearly they must have won because they won the championship that season and no team has ever come back from 3-0 down. Despite having their main star performing so badly they must have won". So I looked it up and it turns out they won by 20 points, despite Jordan's poor display. While in game 2 he scored 36 points, but they lost. Then the next game he scored 54! And they only won by half the amount...

    - I literally just looked this up because I remember that the 1996 Bulls had an almost "anomaly" result. I had no idea about the box scores before but I remember they were blown out by 104-72 against the Knicks. So I looked at the box scores and surprise surprise what do I see, Jordan with an above average 32 points, 8 rebounds and 3 assists on only 3% below average TS%. Yet the Bulls suffer a heavy loss with only 72 points, by far their worse output, you`d assume their main offensive weapon would have a bad day, but nope.

    - I just looked up another 1996 Bulls "anomaly" result. A 109-108 loss against the 20 win, expansion team Toronto Raptors who only played 7 players that game (guards Tracy Murray and Damon Stoudamire played 46 mins). Again with no previous idea about the box score I look it up and, what a coincidence! Jordan scores 36 points on 64% shooting with 9 rebounds, but this rare loss yet again comes in an above average performance from Jordan.

    Wilt wasn`t the stat padder that only got his stats when his team lost at all, Jordan was.

    -3

    Oh and by the way kids use this site you probably shouldn't use words like that.