'88 Michael Jordan amethyst card

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Name Michael Jordan
Edition 1988
Theme Defensive Player of the Year
Collection Defensive Player of the Year 1
Position SG / SF
Age 24
Height 6'6"
Weight 195lbs
From North Carolina
Plays Isolation, Mid Range, Cutter
Sell Value 3200
Added September 30th, 2015
110,000
July 21st, 2016
110,000
July 2nd, 2016
5,000,000
February 16th, 2016

95 Overall

75 Outside scoring

  • 92 Standing shot mid
  • 91 Moving shot mid
  • 53 Standing shot 3pt
  • 48 Moving shot 3pt
  • 96 Shot IQ
  • 84 Free throw
  • 98 Off. consistency

92 Inside scoring

  • 93 Standing shot close
  • 94 Moving shot close
  • 95 Standing layup
  • 96 Driving layup
  • 75 Standing dunk
  • 98 Driving dunk
  • 50 Contact dunk
  • 90 Draw foul
  • 75 Post control
  • 40 Post hook
  • 85 Post fadeaway
  • 98 Hands

83 Playmaking

  • 87 Ball control
  • 92 Passing accuracy
  • 70 Passing vision
  • 96 Passing IQ

93 Athleticism

  • 92 Speed
  • 93 Acceleration
  • 98 Vertical
  • 57 Strength
  • 99 Stamina
  • 98 Hustle
  • 97 Overall durability

97 Defending

  • 98 On-ball def. IQ
  • 68 Low post def. IQ
  • 94 Pick & roll def. IQ
  • 96 Help def. IQ
  • 98 Lateral quickness
  • 95 Pass perception
  • 98 Reaction time
  • 94 Steal
  • 64 Block
  • 97 Shot contest
  • 96 Def. consistency

65 Rebounding

  • 52 Offensive rebound
  • 68 Defensive rebound
  • 78 Boxout

3726 Total attr.

Updates OVR POS INS OUT PLY ATH DEF REB
01/09/16 (Viewing) 95 SG SF 92 75 83 93 97 65
01/06/16 95 SG SF 92 75 83 93 97 65
10/27/15 90 SG SF 91 68 79 92 91 49

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    12

    Why is DPOY not the best defensive Jordan?

    22

    Because the stats aren't updated yet since the card isnt released

    3

    Why the hell is that downvoted lol am I the new Klayy XD

    Show 2 replies...
    3

    Yeah I guess I am since that got downvoted... smh

    2

    yes the card is identical to the normal 86 jordan, he'll be better

    0

    because he was better defensively in his prime I guess

    0

    Because that's the year when he won defensive player of the year

    7

    And here you go, Jordan is the best one here...

    -3

    even better than hakeem and ben wallace wow.....

    12

    Jordan was a better player then both of them...

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    -2

    Not defensively

    10

    The rating is on overall play, not just defense.

    -1

    Well Jordan has better defense then all of em.

    1

    Well, Hakeem is still a better overall defender than Jordan (in game)
    If you look closely at the stats...

    2

    The lateral quickness messes up the defensive overall of the big men

    -1

    Okay well what about the rest? Can't just use Hakeem.

    -1

    Yeah Jordan should not be the highest overall defender for DPOY cards

    5

    That's because Michael Jordan has a higher lateral quickness and steal. Hakeem- 96 on ball
    MJ- 98 on ball
    MJ- 68 low post
    Hakeem- 99 low post
    Look at the defensive stats closely..

    1

    Oh my god a person with a brain on the internet...this cant be...

    Jokes aside same reason AI is most athletic player of all time going by 2k.

    0

    Okay. MJ WITh a 68 low post still has 97 overall defending. Same as Hakeem. Same as Michael Cooper. Higher than Ben Wallace. Higher than Dikembe. Higher than The Admiral. Same as Gary Payton. Same as Sidney Moncrief. And those are all-time guys known for their defense. Why should Jordan have the same on-ball as the greatest on-ball defender of all time (and I'm not talking about Jordan).

    0

    Because he was a reallllyyy great defender? The overall defending DOESN'T MATTER. It's about the original stats...

    -1

    Dude MJ wasn't a better defender than Michael Cooper. And if D rob's lat quickness was a 99 his overall defending still wouldn't be the same as Jordan.

    1

    Ummm... Yes he was....

    Anyways, OVERALL DEFENDING DOESN'T. MATTER.
    And if D Rob's lat quickness was a 99, his overall defending WOULD BE HIGHER THAN MOST OF THEM
    Big men aren't known for their lateral quickness...
    Look at the overall defending.
    @ianstp plz help, I CAN'T EXPLAIN to him :'(

    0

    Bae i here 4 u kappa

    0

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    -1

    Yeah u r right about the big man crap i got it now. But u cant say that jordan is a better defender than the greatest on ball defender of all time. And its not just on ball hes probably as a guard the greatest defender ever.

    -1

    And fyi im talking about '87 for cooper not every season lol

    1

    MJ in their respective seasons had better Steal %, Block %, Defensive Win Shares and Defensive Box Score +/- (Cooper was negative fyi).

    -1

    It wasn't the steals and blocks that Cooper had (27.5 MPG), it was that he would lock anyone up and they couldn't really do much. If you go look at the DPOY Michael Cooper, you will see that the first comment says "better be 99 on-ball" IDK if that's everyone season for him, but at least this one.

    0

    True, he was a fantastic defender, but stats outweigh solitary reputation

    -1

    Like 38 year old Jordan completely shutting out Vince Carter in 2nd half

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvQfjsCuvX0

    -1

    Same as all guards
    Higher than all big men
    See what I'm saying here? Big men have low lateral quickness which really mess up their overall defending

    -9

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    1

    He's got better rebounding than current LeBron even though Jordan averaged 5.5 rebounds per game and LeBron grabs 7.1 boards per game.....

    0

    Current and dynamic LeBron...

    0

    This Jordan still got the trash 3 ball though.

    0

    He shot .132 from 3 that year. So it's accurate

    0

    I didn't say it wasn't accurate Im saying that he just has a trash 3 ball.

    0

    downvotes tho

    0

    2k bandwagon? lol darn those people that think Jordan was the best player to play the game... stupid 2k what are they thinking... we all know that's not true. *sarcasm*

    0

    Yeah this is his DPOY card and he's the best defender of all of them. He wasn't a better defender than some of those other guys

    0

    I'm not saying that he's not the GOAT. He obviously is. I'm saying that they shouldn't give him like 15 different cards. Also giving him a 99 defending on his reward card. Like cmon

    5

    '96 gary payton 2.9 steals per game, 99 steal

    '88 Michael Jordan 3.2 Steals per game, 94 steal

    2

    The only thing I can think of is that Gary Payton may have made on-ball steals more than Jordan. Jordan probably played passing lanes more than Payton, which evened out their steals per game. This would explain why '96 Gary Payton has slightly lower pass perception than this Jordan card

    2

    it's not necessary about the stats. it's about the ability to as well

    0

    jordan is the only person ppl will defend when 2k messes up the ratings

    0

    Michael Jordan has always averaged more steals than payton

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    4

    '97 kendal gill averaged 2.68 steals that season and has a 64 steal. that's what you call ridiculous

    2

    2k usually cares only about the mainstream and popular players who people would actually debate about. An actual fan like you would notice that, but the general public wouldn't, so 2k really won't bother hahahha

    2

    well you already know 2k be tripping

    3

    @Klayyyyyy will be arriving soon to declare his ten hour long essay on why michael jordan shouldnt have these stats. Prepare.....lol jk

    3

    Nah they're ok for 1988 Jordan.

    0

    ohh so you watched that season?...k

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    1

    Stats don't lie.

    0

    they do, and the saying is numbers dont lie

    0

    IK but you criticize him as if you've watched him play. I know you finally say something good about Jordan but I can see you're just another stat follower, basketball is more than stats boy and you gotta learn that.

    1

    Maybe defensively. But offensively advanced stats say it all.

    -4

    You dumb boy, you need to actually learn basketball and stop depending on 2k and stats

    1

    2K? Aren`t we debating whether the 2K ratings are correct? What else am I gonna use but stats? The bias media?

    0

    To a certain degree he is right. You can't base everything on stats, but at the same time you should base a lot of it on it.

    Things like Steph Curry's playmaking, fotexample as its debated a lot, is something you just have to see. Double behind the back passes, the Rajon Rondo into a Magic Johnson, the times he got CP3 and Westbrook reaching and grabbing air, THAT step back 3 on the Clips...he's a walking circu.

    1

    Yes but being a walking circus doesn`t necessarily make you a better player, or help the team. I think the mistake here is that people see stats as individual stats. I judge on team impact too.

    0

    Then your underselling Curry. Warriors have been noticably worse with him off the court all year, and the Mavs game was the rude awakaning for all those who hadn't noticed.

    0

    I`m saying that the walking circus stuff isn`t necessarily helping. Not that Curry isn`t valuble

    0

    Jason Williams didn't average many assist and he still known as one of the best play makers ever

    1

    Yeah he could pass well, but he didn't show it much, as proved in his stats, so really that passing was wasted.

    -2

    IMO Klayyy probably has the best basketball IQ out of all of us since he understands that stats dont lie.....and has the balls to say mj was overrated, everyone disagreed but Klayyy continued his point and so many people agreed with him after a while. Idk what ur talking about

    4

    Just because he types a bunch of stats without even seeing a player doesn't mean he knows basketball. The fact that he says the mj is overrated doesn't mean he has balls, it just shows he's never seen a basketball game and just looks at stats. Before you make stupid claims about him, have the decency of watching him play. Stats don´t lie, MJ had great ones, but that's not basketball and players don't play for stats, like Shaq said 'The day I stopped worrying about stats is the day I started winning'.

    1

    Not worrying doesn`t equal not getting stats...

    0

    I know but it helps you focus on whats actually important, winning...

    1

    Yes but you`re not getting the point here. I`m not talking about players stat whoring or worrying about stats. You`re making the mistake that stats = selfishness. If a player averages 25-10-5 they`re better than someone averaging 15-5-2. There is a reason the best teams average more points, assists, less opponent points etc. than the worst teams. you`re also talking about me watching games, what will that do exactly? I find it funny how your acting like Jordan was all unselfish and cared about winning over stats, when he averaged 37 PPG on a <.500 team that only won 10 less games the previous season when he was injured...

    -2

    I know stats have importance and if you'd look at a game you'll see how Michael impacted basketball, that why he's considered the GOAT, and yes stats are part of it. I know I'm underrating the importance of stats but I hate people judging a player on his stats without them watching the player. Just because Jordan averaged 37 ppg in one season doesn't mean he only cared about stats, and did his team mates ever win a championship without him?... I respect your opinion that Wilt is better but that MJ is overrated and you haven't even seen him play, and your judging him on bad games as if Wilt never had one. IMO MJ had a bigger impact on his team than Wilt, respect it or not... look at the rings

    1

    Did Jordan ever win a championship without his teammates? You must be new here because I`ve already proven that Wilt had a far greater impact on his team than anyone but Lebron in the GOAT discussion. The stat is somewhere on the 2K15 PD Jordan page, it`s a team stat BTW.

    -4

    Are you a moron, a great player obviously needs a team, that made no sense, and did Wilt win 6 championships with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, 2 of the greatest players in history??? even an injured Willis Reed beat Wilt twice, he had exactly what he need and only got 1 with them, MJ only had Pippen, and later Rodman who was exactly what he needed to have the best record in NBA history, if Jordan wasn't in the bulls, they wouldn't have a championship, even with Pippen and Rodman

    1

    Bulls record before MJ = 27-55
    Bulls record in MJ's 1st season = 38-44
    11 win difference
    Bulls best record before Pippen = 40-42
    Bulls when MJ leaves Pippen = 55-27
    -15 win difference (compared to Pippen)
    Total = -4 win difference

    Cavs record before Lebron = 17-65
    Cavs record after Lebron's 1st season = 35-47
    18 win difference
    Cavs best record with Lebron = 67-15
    Cavs record when Lebron leaves = 19-63
    48 win difference
    Total = 66 win difference

    Warriors record before Wilt = 32-40
    Warriors record after Wilt's 1st season = 49-26
    17 win difference
    Warriors best record with Wilt = 49-26
    Warriors record when Wilt leaves = 17-63
    32 win difference
    Total = 49 win difference

    -2

    so the only important thing in the NBA is the regular season?... I thought players played to win championships, well MR. Stat Whore I'm sorry... not. At the end of the day, did the bull win the championship with Scottie alone? (not saying he isn't a great player), IDK why you included Lebron in this who can't be compared to MJ, even though he's one of the best in history, and Wilt couldn't perform when it actually counted. I don't wanna be your enemy, all I got to say you only show me regular season stats of teams that didn't even go to the final or win it, Jordan performed great during the regular season (not saying it isn't important to perform well in that time) and steped up playoffs (when it actually counts), LeBron even performed in the playoffs better than Wilt did and Wilt had Jerry West and Elgin Baylor. Look at the rings, what actually matters. Stop giving me regular season stats.

    1

    No the regular season isn`t the only important thing in the NBA, but Jordan's and Wilt`s post season stats are unfair to compare. Just compare Wilt`s famous 1962 season to the Bull`s famous 1996 season. In the playoffs Wilt faced first the Nationals with all star Red Kerr at center, as well as HOFers Dolph Schayes (RIP) and Hal Greer plus another all star in Larry Costello. Then he faced Bill Russell and 6 other HOFers in the form of the Celtics, and only lost game 7 by 2 points. Jordan on the other hand faced the Heat first. You can certainly make an argument that that Heat team was good, but their starting SG? Sasha Danilovic...Next up was the Knicks, again certinatly a good team who even had a good SG in John Starks, but although Jordan averaged 36-4-5, he shot 44%. Then he faced the Magic with Nick Anderson and in the finals, Hershey Hawkins...

    In conclusion Wilt faced:
    All star
    HOFer/possible GOAT defender

    Jordan faced:
    Trash
    Quite good
    Decent
    Meh

    And this is repeated throughout their careers There were barley any good SG`s in Jordan`s years, Wilt literally faced an all star center in 90%+ of his playoff series. Including probably the GOAT defender in 9/10 possible years...

    No the Bulls didn`t win a championship with Pippen alone, but they won 55 games and lost to the finalists in 7 games. Instead of winning 40 games and getting swept by Terry Cummings with Jordan alone...

    I said that Lebron was the only player who had more impact on his team than Wilt, that`s why I put him there.

    Funny that you say Wilt couldn`t perform when it counted, people criticize Wilt for only having 4 50 point playoff games. But don`t mention how 3 of those were in elimination games, including 2 effective game 7`s while the other was in game 5 of a series that was 2-2, the Warriors won all those games by 20+ points. Jordan on the other hand got his 63 point game in a loss, to go along with the 2 other losses in his 5 60 point games, 4 of which needed OT. That`s stat whoring, as all those points were clearly not helping the team.

    I don`t know why you keep mentioning Jerry West and Elgin Baylor, when they were both 30+ as was Wilt by the time they joined together. Then they had to face teams with twice as many HOFers as them with the Celtics and Knicks.

    You need to look at my old comments. There is a reason most people on this site agree with me. I`ve explained all of this.

    -1

    6 rings vs 2, 1 of them with 2 of the greatest player of all time... bye

    2

    *Sigh. The foolishnesss. That doesn`t even make sense when 3 of Jordan`s rings came with 2 of the greatest players of all time, and he played trash teams instead of teams with 6-7 HOFers. But rings mean nothing in this debate so...

    -2

    Before you keep searching for more random stats, I recommend something for that rash

    -2

    excuses, excuses, and Jordan faced Malone and Stockton, arguably the best combo in history, twice, once with a flu, and rings do matter when they're the reason for it.

    3

    Malone and Stockton, and Jeff Hornacek, Adam Keefe and Greg Ostertag... Not exactly Frazier, Bradley, Debusschere, Lucas and Reed or KC Jones, S.Jones, Havlicek, Heinsohn and Russell. All 10 HOFers.

    There are 5 players on the court for a team at once, apart from Stockton and Malone the Jazz had no one.

    -3

    Words can't cure that rash, go to a doctor asap

    3

    Face it kid, you can't win in this argument. Klayyyyyy has facts and stats to back up his argument, whether you are just using your opinions. Jordan has the best overall team ever, whether Wilt is the only person ever to single-handedly lead a trash team to win the championship. Even when Wilt won with Elgin Baylor and Jerry West, Elgin Baylor was mediocre at best because of his age and Jerry West (who was old) had the same play style as Steve Kerr, who was coming off the bench for Michael Jordan's stacked team.

    -3

    I had already won, the fact that he's throwing me random useless stats doesn't mean he's winning. Wilt never carried the Warriors, the season they won, they had 2 team mates with more than 20ppg, one with 19 and most with 10 plus. Wilt played in an easy era where he was tall enough to dominate because basketball was still developing, MJ played against WAY better players and in the toughest era, and he only had Pippen and then Rodman, Kukoc was the only good one after tham with only one good for one season, Kerr wasn't even good, so the comparison with West was retarded and you've never even seen West play,and the rest sucked. Wilt had a dominant team. I don't wanna disrespect Wilt cause he's a legend but... you guys lead me to because you do it to MJ.

    2

    OH MY GOODNESS JUST READ MY DAMN COMMENTS FROM LAST YEAR ALREADY!!!!! You`re just repeating stuff i`ve already proven wrong or meaningless. For example sure Wilt had 2 teammates averaging 20 PPG, but so did the Celtics. And those high scorers might have something to do with the fact that Wilt led the league in assists that season...

    -1

    and 7 assists doesn't mean he helped both players score more than 20, 19 for another one AND 10 plus for a couple more

    2

    In a league as fast paced as the 60`s, 20 PPG = 15-16 PPG now. Again every team had many players averaging 10+ PPG, the Celtics and Knicks often had 5-7. Assists were counted far more strictly than now though, so I wont adjust that for pace.

    -1

    da fuq do you know about the 60's besides stats, now you're just making shit up

    1

    The average pace of the NBA in the 60`s was around 125, now it`s 90-100.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1967.html
    Six 10PPG players not including leading playmaker KC Jones

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/1972.html
    Seven 10 PPG players

    1957 : assists awarded on 52% of all field goals

    1958 : assists awarded on 50% of all field goals

    1959 : assists awarded on 49% of all field goals

    1960 : assists awarded on 51% of all field goals

    1961 : assists awarded on 53% of all field goals

    1962 : assists awarded on 52% of all field goals

    1963 : assists awarded on 50% of all field goals

    Compared to:

    1986 : assists awarded on 60% of all field goals

    1987 : assists awarded on 61% of all field goals

    1988 : assists awarded on 61% of all field goals

    See, if stats are available, you can prove anything we`re debating with them.

    -2

    not everything baby, all I see is pointless stats that don't prove shit, I'm tired of butt hurt fans. Look, read what I said last, IMO I prefer MJ, and IYO you prefer Wilt K?, I don't wanna continue cause this is getting pointless, it's all relative, and I got some shit to do now that school is starting, and believe it or nor, I have a life that isn't wasting my day wanking off to pointless stats and debating with other people on players you haven't even seen play. Bye, I'll miss kicking your ass.

    1

    What you said last:

    "da fuq do you know about the 60's besides stats, now you're just making shit up"???

    Dude at least read my Lakers Wilt comment, the long one about how I became an NBA fan and stuff. If your tired of "butt hurt fans", that`s not my problem. And believe it or not it is my GCSE year at school, and I don`t spend my life on this site, I just respond to everything.

    BTW didn`t you start this? After I actually praised these ratings? SMH almost as bad as AROD. (not as a troll, but just in general)

    -1

    And the Celtics thing is redundant...

    -1

    he led the league in assists the next season... and it still doesn't mean that they're shit...

    1

    LOL in what way is leading the NBA is assists as a center "s***"?

    -2

    Idiot I meant the two 20ppg teammates

    0

    lol is this guy AROD?

    0

    Nope. proved with this: "First of all, don't ever use google translate again cause clearly it sucks for sentences and some words. Second of all I respect the fact that you'll think that Wilt is the GOAT, I like diversity, if you would've read for the beginning, I said that I'm tired of people saying MJ's overrate just because a lot of people like him, and it just makes me want to go against Wilt, who I think is a great player. Third of all, never said anything bad about Stockton, AI, etc. Like I said, I respect opinions but hate when players like him are not respected just because of stupid reasons." easily not ARODs style of writing

    1

    People make the argument that Wilt was a stat padder, but it doesn't change the fact that he's probably the best passing big man. Leading the league in assists isn't "Shit" it's something that's huge for every player, especially a Big.

    -1

    I never said it wasn't shit, learn how to read, I said that 7 assist isn't the reason that two players scored 20ppg, another 19ppg and a couple 10ppg

    1

    Learn your grammar, you hoe. SMH.

    "he [Wilt] led the league in assists the next season... and it still doesn't mean that they're <<<<<[who is they? We would assume Wilt] shit..."

    -1

    Hello Petunia, I think you should learn grammar.

    English isn't my native language and I still know that they is referred to more than one person, if I'm not mistaken the word you maybe looking for is he. Second of all, I said AND IT STILL DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE SHIT. Third of all, why would I say the stats are shit?I'd recommend you get off Klay's dick before you embarrass yourself even more.

    0

    I'm not on Klay's dick? Looks like we got a new AROD mf going on here...

    0

    I don't understand why you ask me, IDK who he is,and changing subjects won't make up for your stupidity

    1

    ok, in 4 different languages I shall try.

    FRANCAIS
    Je dis cela à nouveau , et ne me dites pas de descendre la bite de Klayyy nouveau . Les chiffres ne mentent pas , et ni ne documentaires ESPN qui ont parlé sur Wilt . Vous ne pouvez vraiment pas faire le disputer que Klay jette faits de merde aléatoires à vous, et il fait aussi simplement bash pas Jordanie. Tout le monde , même Klay respecte certainement MJ comme un top 3. Votre disputer est purement juste " MJ a obtenu plus ANNEAUX " est donc Russel La chèvre dans votre esprit ? Et des gens comme Iverson , Stockton , Nash , Malone rien pour vous ? Personne ne fait tout le chemin par eux-mêmes , pas même MJ . Les seules personnes qui ont fait l'OMI qui sont , Wilt et Lebron .
    * Gouttes micro *

    ESPAGNOL
    Voy a decir esto de nuevo, y no me digas que bajar la polla de Klayyy nuevo. Los números no mienten , y tampoco documentales ESPN que han hablado sobre Wilt . Usted realmente no puede hacer que el argumento de que Klay lanza hechos mierda al azar a usted, y él también no sólo golpear a Jordania. Todo el mundo , incluso Klay definitivamente respeta MJ como un top 3. Su argumento es puramente sólo " MJ conseguido ANILLOS " así es Russel la CABRA en tu mente ? Y son gente como Iverson , Stockton , Nash , Malone nada para ti ? Nadie lo hizo todo el camino por sí mismos, ni siquiera MJ . Las únicas personas que la OMI han hecho que son , Wilt y Lebron .
    * Gotas micrófono *

    PORTUGESE
    Eu vou dizer isso de novo, e não me diga que descer o pau de Klayyy novamente. Números não mentem , e nem documentários ESPN que intervieram sobre Wilt . Você realmente não pode fazer o argumento de que Klay joga fatos aleatórios merda em você, e ele também não apenas bater a Jordânia. Todo mundo , mesmo Klay definitivamente respeita MJ como um top 3. Seu argumento é puramente apenas " MJ OBTEVE mais anéis " por isso é Russel GOAT em ​​sua mente ? E são pessoas como Iverson , Stockton, Nash, Malone nada para você ? Ninguém fez todo o caminho por si mesmos , nem mesmo MJ . As únicas pessoas que IMO fizeram que são , Wilt e Lebron .
    * Drops mic *

    CHINESE

    我再说一次,不要告诉我下车Klayyy的家伙了。数字不会说谎,也不做谁的发言在威尔特ESPN的纪录片。你真的不能作出这样的克莱抛出随机狗屎事实,你的实际参数的,而他也并不仅仅是抨击乔丹。每个人,甚至克莱绝对尊重MJ作为首要3.您的实际参数的纯粹只是“ MJ得到了更多的戒指”等是拉塞尔在你的心中山羊?并且人喜欢艾弗森,斯托克顿,纳什,马龙没有给你?没有人做这一切的方式本身,甚至没有MJ 。谁IMO已经做到了这是,张伯伦和勒布朗的唯一的人。
    *丢弃麦克风*

    1

    And english-
    I'll say this again, and don't tell me to get off Klayyy's dick again. Numbers don't lie, and neither do ESPN documentaries who have spoken on Wilt. You really can't make the arguement that Klay throws random shit facts at you, and he also doesn't just bash Jordan. Everybody, even Klay definitely respects MJ as a top 3. Your arguement is purely just "MJ GOT MORE RINGS" so is Russel the GOAT in your mind? And are people like Iverson, Stockton, Nash, Malone nothing to you? Nobody made it all the way by themselves, not even MJ. The only people who IMO have done that are, Wilt and Lebron. *Drops mic*

    0

    First of all, don't ever use google translate again cause clearly it sucks for sentences and some words. Second of all I respect the fact that you'll think that Wilt is the GOAT, I like diversity, if you would've read for the beginning, I said that I'm tired of people saying MJ's overrate just because a lot of people like him, and it just makes me want to go against Wilt, who I think is a great player. Third of all, never said anything bad about Stockton, AI, etc. Like I said, I respect opinions but hate when players like him are not respected just because of stupid reasons.

    0

    Thank you for that civil response. And yes haha, the only language I know some of is Spanish, so I had to use Google Translate.

    Nice viewpoint, no AROD after all.

    0

    IDK who he is but I don't wanna cause war or anything, It just gets me mad, I still respect Wilt. At least you're nice, unlike Klay. And spanish is my native language jajaja.

    1

    Umm, where was I unkind? Sure we were arguing, but I never said anything hurtful.

    Meanwhile you called me a moron and an idiot...

    0

    so many comments omfg

    0

    Kobe and Shaq won and their team wasn't good, the '01 team not the '98 team.

    1

    Looking to change KD with MJ at the 3 , any suggestions for my line up ?

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    TBH this should be Jordans 99 card. this was his best season.

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    even though he didn't win the MVP and DPOY in 86-87, I think 86-87 was his best season. Maybe just because of the scoring, but in terms of individual accolades he achieved, this would be his best individual season

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    only MJ would eat this

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    Pulled him during a pack session with my mates, when flipped, the room sounded as an overcrowded stadium on a buzzer 3 ! :)

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    I really wish 2K would release a Wizards MJ card.

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    everyone needs to chill with the lame arguments over jordan, fact of the matter is, he was a force of natures, won some games on pure will alone, but, everyone say "so and so got shafted or are better or blah blah blah"

    the most screwed player in 2k by far is the original isiah thomas. in his prime he was far past an 89 rating, when does he get a fair card?

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    no 3lol

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    If I remember correctly Troydan put Corner Specialist on him and he was draining.

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    This or 01 Kobe or 00 Vince? Someone help don't know what sick player to put at SG

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    I have tried all and I clearly recommend DPOY MJ over both of those guys, unless, of course, your playing style is all about jacking up threes from half court.

    This card is a game changer on the defensive end, and his inside/mid range game is on par with both, if not better.

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    Definitely agree man this card is heavy on the defensive end, ended up pulling diamond mj though since this comment and he's a beast! nice one for the opinion though appreciate it

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    cheers bro. I have also tried diamond MJ (it was a snipe, made around 70k profit eventually), and I still don't think the difference is that big, except for MVP MJ being able to hit open threes. Personally I would have sold the MVP card, use this, and spend the extra 400k on an actual game changer like diamond Dirk.

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    That's actually a good idea man I think since the mvp packs are like 6 hours away from expiring diamond mj may go for more on the market as he's gonna be harder to get, so I might do just that. Thanks bro !

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    will be about a 94 overall

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    95 overall, dang

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    And this is M.J 5.0 already... I'm prepared for 2k's bandwagoning ass to drop 12 more fucking jordan's this year.

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    A lot of the MJ's in the hidden collections probably won't be released and are just labeled because there part of teams 2K put into the game.

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    Yeah but there will be at least 5 Jordans. I swear.

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    Yo, why are they not using the historic bulls logo??

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    Remember everyone he also won the MVP that season

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    Hopefully will be less than liek 400k so I have a chance of getting him on PC...

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    He will always be up at 1 mill bid and going up. That's how it goes with almost all the new amethysts.

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    Yeah... its stupid. Are you on PC? My steam name is the same as my name on here if you want to add me

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    Yeah, I'm on steam too, I managed to snipe him for 1 million MT, got real lucky.

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    Just so you guys know theres a website advertised on here where you can buy a million mt for like $13

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    he should be a 98, MVP and DPOY, 35 PPG, what stats and accolades man

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    I would soon to have about 100kish MT from selling players. Should I sell KD and James Harden to get Michael Jordan? I'm on Xbox One. I have CP3 at PG, Clyde at SG, LBJ at PF and David Robinson at C as a squad.

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    whats your gamertag bro? we should play
    i feel like 90% of the people here are on ps4 =/

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    H3 marksman is my gamertag on Xbox One.

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    i added you
    and i bought the mj and he's worth it

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    That's good to know that you liked him. :) How much MT did you buy MJ for? I got him for 250k bid winner with couple gold badges.

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    300k fully badged
    i'm mmcdonald1 by the way haha

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    Xbox one hollygrove mikey. Seed 1

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    I wouldn't his price is only going to go down because of all the crazy players 2k are releasing, and you already have Clyde

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    Well, i mean some people said it might go up after DPOY packs which it ends in 4 days. Maybe I could get stephen curry and DPOY Hakeem (estimated 300k total for 2) instead of MJ?

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    Thats sounds alot better, I have only used regular curry and hes really good for me, and dpoy hakeem has an unstoppable post fade

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    Change of plan, got MJ for 250k with couple gold badge. Have 60k left so I decided to sell cp3 to get Curry. I mean is Hakeem a must needed cause I have David robinson at C? My potential lineup: Curry, MJ, Clyde, LBJ and David Robinson, what do you think?

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    Sounds good only differance between hakeem and robinson is that david robinson has a really bad post fade animation that would always get blocked for me.

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    I just pulled this card and he's an absolute beast

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    48 moving 3pt shot.. I'm playing RTTP and he fades away and shoots the 3 over two people far behind the 3pt line and makes it.. Yup, gotta get this card lol

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    I actually want this card

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    Honestly, this is the best card you can buy for 150k mt or less. This guy would be a diamond if he had a 3 ball. Even now though, his three ball goes in quite a bit. Incredible card. Buy him.

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    Have this card. Absolute beast on the fast break. Very fast, athletic, and deadly mid range. 10/10

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    I just packed him but I dont know how to use him D:, any advice?

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    Whenever you see an opening shoot a pull up midy or drive to basket.When you drive you will either make a posterize , acrobatic layup or grab a foul for sure.And you can shoot 3s with him from corners when he is completely free and set but i rather drive from there :p

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    Surround with shooters call the defensive set 4 out 1 in. Then call for an isolation and get to the rim with him. He wil dunk on them or get the foul

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    just drive to the basket and don't be afraid to posterize. only shoot 3s when he can get his feet set. just dont force it.

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    Best Purple In The Game

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    maybe he should be 97 or a 98. MVP and DPOY in the same year, 35 PPG, Crazy numbers

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    UPDATE CHEEEEESE

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    I have him in my lineup, and while he 3pt is garbage, hes extremely useful. can make a running jumpshot damn near anywhere inside the arc. has extreme dunk range, can completely shut down his opponet, and its so easy to rack up the free throws with ol' jordan, just drive for a layup, usually ending up with an and1

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    Lower than the 86`s?

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    Why is his post fade lower on this card than on his rookie of the year one? Did he get worse at the post fade somehow 2k?

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    Did you know that Jordan is the player with the highest stat difference between two cards? 81 OVR and 99 OVR is the biggest difference of anyone curently (who knows about KAT's dynamic card)

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    And his 50 ST3PT and 93 ST3PT is the biggest single stat difference between two cards of the same player

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    1/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to pull in a pack

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    Lol I just pulled him

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    well actually brook lopez is the same and i literally just pulled him so im kinda freaking out

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    this card is ass

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    Everyone knows that Hakeem was robbed of DPOY this year.

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    No, no they don't

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    They don't know that, but they should. Hakeem deserved DPOY that season

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    hahahaha this guy has a good sense of humour

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    Stop saying this on every Jordan page, I respect your opinion but don't discredit Michael Jordan as a terrible player. Calling Michael Jordan a terrible player is like calling Steve Jobs a dumbass. You keep on using the same reason-Wilt wins more games by himself, he is better-Name me one person who took a team to the finals AND WON! Wilt didn't do that. The year the 76ers won he actually took less shots and passed more. Okay, I think Wilt is a better athlete and basketball player but stop saying Michael Jordan is a terrible player. He is not a terrible basketball player! You want an overrated player? Try Charles Barkley or Shaquille O'Neal. Also I don't know if you remember this but between 1985-1993 Jordan was possible the best defender in the league, his only weakness was being posted up, which was exploited by Magic Johnson in the 1991 Finals. However, Phil Jackson moved Jordan onto James Worthy, who I might remind you is 3 inches taller than him, and he completely shut him down. Stop trying to discredit his defense, 4 out of the 5 of those players who scored tons of points on him were athletic young players, while he was nursing knee injuries and did not have his explosive athleticism. Who did Wilt shutdown when he was in his late 30's? No one! Byron Russel, hmm, let see. One of the best defenders in the late 1990's. But nooooo, he is a cupcake and 38 year old Michael Jordan can easily defeat him. Also Game 3 of the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals: I think you forgot to mention that Jordan made 16 out of 17 free throws, had 2 steals, 2 blocks, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists. He also finished with 22 points, which is pretty good. You say he was trash that game but he was 2 rebounds away from a triple double. Also the Chicago Bulls won that game so I think that kind of discredits your argument right there.

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    Accidentally reported @2kConspiracyTheorist post but this is kind of true

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    Agreed. Especially with the Shaq and Barkley... everything Jordan did he had to put effort in... Shaqs crazy games... well you see teams let him score they fed his stat sheet... its a part of the game... but clearly everyone on here is an all star because they play 2k. @2kConspiracyTheorist