'60 Wilt Chamberlain
Gems of The Game / MVP 1
General information
Theme
Most Valuable PlayerAdded
ReleaseHeight
7'1" (215cm)Weight
275lbs (124kg)Age
24From
KansasPlays
P&R Wing P&R Point
97 Overall
62 Outside scoring
- 74 Standing shot mid
- 50 Moving shot mid
- 25 Standing shot 3pt
- 30 Moving shot 3pt
- 95 Shot IQ
- 58 Free throw
- 98 Offensive consistency
92 Inside scoring
- 92 Standing shot close
- 90 Moving shot close
- 96 Standing layup
- 78 Driving layup
- 95 Standing dunk
- 75 Driving dunk
- 65 Contact dunk
- 97 Draw foul
- 92 Post control
- 91 Post hook
- 92 Post fadeaway
- 95 Hands
89 Athleticism
- 76 Speed
- 72 Acceleration
- 82 Vertical
- 98 Strength
- 99 Stamina
- 98 Hustle
- 95 Overall durability
67 Playmaking
- 44 Ball control
- 75 Passing accuracy
- 74 Passing vision
- 77 Passing IQ
90 Defending
- 88 On-ball defense IQ
- 95 Low post defense IQ
- 96 Help defense IQ
- 89 Pick & roll defense IQ
- 58 Lateral quickness
- 85 Pass perception
- 97 Reaction time
- 64 Steal
- 94 Block
- 95 Shot contest
- 90 Defensive consistency
98 Rebounding
- 97 Offensive rebound
- 98 Defensive rebound
- 98 Boxout
- 3622 Total attributesattr.
| Updates | OVR | POS | INS | OUT | PLY | ATH | DEF | REB |
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97 | C PF | 92 | 62 | 67 | 89 | 90 | 98 |
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97 | C PF | 92 | 62 | 67 | 89 | 90 | 98 |
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92 | C PF | 78 | 40 | 67 | 77 | 89 | 98 |
Outside Scoring
Inside Scoring
Hustle Points
Adept at making shots immediately following offensive rebounds near the basket.
Bank Is Open
Excels at banking in jumpers.
Post Spin Technician
Dominates the post with his ability to beat his defender spin and drive moves.
Drop Stepper
Known for his ability to us the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Post Hoperator
Excels at making hop-shots out of the post.
Dream-like Up and Under
Known for his ability to use the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Post Hook Specialist
Known for his ability to make hook shots from the post at a high percentage.Playmaking
Break Starter
Starts fastbreaks with accurate outlet passes.Athleticism
Bruiser
The physical nature of this player drains energy from his match-up.
Brick Wall
Sets extremely effective screens and drains energy on pick collisions.Defending
Post Lockdown Defender
Drops offensive post attributes of direct match up while playing post defence.
Eraser
Amazing shot blocker who drops interior scoring attributes of opponents while near the rim.
Chasedown Artist
Chases players down on fast breaks and effectively swats their shots from behind.Rebounding
Scrapper
A hustle player who wins loose ball battles.
Offensive Crasher
An elite defensive rebounder known for chasing rebounds out of his area.
Defensive Crasher
An elite offensive rebounder known for his ability to get through and around boxouts.Personality
Beta Dog
Steps his game up when an Alpha Dog teammate is out or is playing poorly.
Road Dog
Elevates his play when playing in road games.
Prime Time
Elevates his play in games of great significance.
Cool and Collected
A player who never goes on cold streaks.
Fierce Competition
Elevates his game when being outplayed or instigated.
Mentor
Gets younger players focused in on the game when they commit mistakes.
Heart and Soul
Rallies team when things are getting out of hand. Helps team stay focused.
Defensive Anchor
Defensive leader who can make his teammates better defensively.
Hardened
A tough player that will play through fatigue and inury without experiencing a sever drop in skill.
Expressive
Has no problem expressing his feelingsDunks
- 99 Standing dunk
- 49 Driving dunk
- 49 Flashy dunk
- 75 Alley-oop
- 82 Putback dunk
- 4 Crash
Layups
- 99 Standing layup
- 49 Driving layup
- 41 Spin layup
- 35 Hop step layup
- 37 Euro step layup
- 40 Floater
Jump shooting
- 47 Step through shot
- 68 Shot under basket
- 30 Shot close
- 6 Shot close left
- 2 Shot close middle
- 0 Shot close right
- 0 Shot mid
- 0 Shot 3pt
- 0 Contested jumper
- 0 Stepback jumper
- 0 Spin jumper
- 50 Transition pull up 3pt
- 15 Use glass
Drive setup
- 12 Triple threat pump fake
- 21 Triple threat jab step
- 85 Triple threat idle
- 15 Triple threat shoot
- 0 Setup with sizeup
- 0 Setup with hesitation
- 85 No setup dribble
Driving
- 20 Drive
- 70 Drive right
- 0 Driving crossover
- 0 Driving spin
- 0 Driving step back
- 0 Driving half spin
- 0 Driving double crossover
- 0 Driving behind the back
- 0 Driving dribble hesitation
- 0 Driving in and out
- 75 No driving dribble move
- 37 Attack strong on drive
Freelance
- 70 Shoot
- 75 Touches
- 0 Roll vs. pop
Post game
- 80 Post up
- 25 Post shimmy shot
- 5 Post face up
- 85 Post back down
- 50 Post aggressive backdown
- 85 Shoot from post
- 50 Post hook left
- 50 Post hook right
- 50 Post fade left
- 50 Post fade right
- 0 Post up and under
- 0 Post hop shot
- 0 Post step back shot
- 25 Post drive
- 20 Post spin
- 75 Post drop step
- 38 Post hop step
Passing
- 74 Dish to open man
- 0 Flashy pass
- 0 Alley oop pass
Defense
- 44 Pass interception
- 10 Take charge
- 45 On-ball steal
- 92 Contest shot
- 92 Block shot
- 21 Foul
- 41 Hard foul
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Things that should be higher for this Wilt card:
1: Post Hook (95+)
2: Speed (80 to 90 ish)
3: Acceleration (80 to 90 ish)
4: Vertical (90+)
5: Lateral Quickness (Should be higher than a 58)
6: Strength (99. 98 is still great, but Wilt should have a 99.)
7: Standing Layup (99)
8: Block (99)
9: Ball Control (You can say it should be higher because he actually handled the ball a lot for the Globetrotters. Not sure which rating I would give it, though.)
10: Post Fadeaway (Just a little bit higher)
11: Standing Shot Mid (80 ish)
12: Standing Dunk (Definitely 99)
13: Contact Dunk (99)
I think he should also have Alpha Dog and Posterizer as badges. Overall, this is still a BEAST card. Hopefully, we get a 61-62 version of Wilt soon. Maybe they'll juice all his stats that way if that version comes out.
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Serious question, do people on this site have a phobia of being mainstream? MJ the goat? Nah, too many people say that already. Curry was MVP? LOL, everyone knows James Harden deserved it even though the only thing he has on Curry is his mid range and dunking.
This is not to detract from anyone who GENUINLY believes Wilt is the goat and knows his stats and the other greats stats and has formed a personnel opinion that "Hey, this guy was pretty fucking godly at basketball." And I can understand that. What I can't understand is going onto other players pages and bashing them only because you feel that your fav player is better. Like, whats the point in that? People seem to forget that there's a REASON Jordan is considered by many to be the goat. He was extremelly clutch. He averaged more points in the playoffs in the regular season, unlike Wilt. As much as peole want to point out that theres only an inch or so in the difference of the average height of centers and modern day centers, an inch really is a lot when your a big, especially when Wilt is 7'2".
Before the innevitable bashing comes in (after all, I have posted this on a Wilt page), I think MJ and Wilt are EQUAL/THE SAME/TIED GOATS/=. Reason being: comparing a shooting guard to a center is rather pointless, given that you can only compare them on PPG realistically and many vital stats werent recorded in Wilt's age. MJ is (as of now) the greatest perimeter player of all time and Wilt (as of now) is the GOAT bigman. However I do believe neither will remain the GOATs forever, as eventually MJ reincarnated with a 3pt rolls around and a Wilt with more longetivity and better outdside scoring comes along. Only a matter of time.
So basically should be a JOINT 99 with Collector Reward MJ. No more, no less.
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Yeah, it's annoying how a lot of people on here act like NBA hipsters lmao
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*assume hispter voice*
yeah, man.... I liked Lebron before the heat... but Curry? No, way to overrated, the cavs would have won that finals man.....and MJ, man.... like, you see, like, MJ, wasn't even that good, he just has nice shoes...
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Look up the second season after he retired. Scottie carried them that first one.
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I looked everything up before... 47-35 is still a playoff team
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Its not 72-10 tho when he came back
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*With the greatest pound for pound interior defender and rebounder of all time.
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As good as the Worm was, he doesn't fill the gap left by Horace Grant and then contribute those extra wins.
Also imo Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes and maybe even Draymond Green if he can keep improving can challenge the pound for pound statement.
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Horace Grant left at the end of the 55 win season, which would explain the dip to 47 wins the next season and also means that Rodman could reasonably have made the difference.
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The NBA would have to regress to the fast-pace low defence style of Wilt's era for there ever to be another wilt. No player would be able to do what he did in today's game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOS7lNTABzc he explains why wilt 50 ppg was overrated
Tell me your thoughts @ianstp @Klayyyyyy
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Personally, I dont place any player above the rest except when it comes to positions and eras. I cant say that MJ was the GOAT when he didn't even play against all the greats and besides, the NBA started in 1946. Not 1984 or 1990.
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trying to press reply accidentaly pressed report sorry but i 10000000000% agree with u
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in my mind mj is the goat
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updated wilt --> 97??
surely they'll release a 98 or 99 ovr card soon?
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Can we get a moments card of Wilt's 100-point game? I know many people, including myself, want this card because we think this Wilt is extremely underrated.
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moments cards are only for the year 2016...
Butler
Wall
Cousins
Kemba
Rivers
Daniels...
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It's nowhere near extremely underrated. The problem is this is '60 Wilt. For '62 Wilt 99 would probably be appropriate, but Wilt averaged 37 PPG on 46 percent shooting in '60- and Klay's main argument to why Bill Russell sucks is that he shot under 50 percent which is apparently TERRIBLE for a center (according to Klay). A few things about this card should be higher, yes, but he should NOT be 99, and besides that 2k doesn't make moments cards for anything other than current players in this season. Per 100 possessions (approx- possessions weren't tracked until '72 or '73 or something I believe) this season really doesn't look super amazing apart from the rebounding (but that is due to the increased pace and lower FG% by far). Yeah, some stats are wrong (in both ways), but '60 Wilt certainly does not deserve to be much higher than this.
Besides that, moments cards are only for current players (except the Jordan on release in the Jordan edition, which they said was a 1 time thing) like I said.
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I wrote this comment in December, when he was a 92 overall. I am actually quite happy with this card.
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He should be a lot more athletic though. His strength actually maybe should be a little lower, as he wasn't yet the monstrous mountain of muscle he was later, but he was a legit track star in college and there is video and archival evidence of him having a one step vertical reach of over 13 feet. Not to mention his athletic versatility, as many of the people he played volleyball (a sport whose Hall of Fame he is an inductee of) with called him the best blocker they had ever seen and testified to opponents being downright terrified of his spikes. He also tried out for the Kansas City Chiefs one off season and head coach Hank Stram was so impressed by his size, athleticism, soft hands, and quick learning that he offered Chamberlain the starting tight end spot, but Wilt declined and returned to basketball. Ridiculous athlete but according to 2K he was nowhere near as athletic as Dwight. BS
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Oh no question he should be more athletic. He ran a 1:59 half mile 4 years after Bannister ran the very first 4 minute mile. His vert should also be better. Same goes for players like Hayes and Russell, 2k underrated their athleticism a ton, they were all nearly as athletic as guards if not more so in the case of Wilt. There's a video of Elvin Hayes beating some of his teammates and other players who you think would be much faster in a 100m race quite handily except 1 guy who he edges out by a few feet at a training camp or something.
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Russell shot well below 50% on easy shots
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Then he must have shot above 50 on the hard ones... His career average is 44 percent and in his prime he was shooting around 47 percent. If he was "well below 50%" on easy shots, how was he only slightly below 50 percent?
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In only 4 of his 13 seasons did he shoot 45%, and they were spread out.
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And in only one was he below .425. 3 of those 4 seasons were in the span of 4 years, that isn't very spread out...
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Russell was still a very good offensive player, with his leadership, passing ability, and offensive rebounding. A lot of people forget to talk about offensive rebounding when discussing a player's effectiveness on that end of the floor
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I'm sorry, but I think this whole Jordan/Chamberlain GOAT argument on this website has gone too far. Here is the way I see it (Credit to ADoseofBuckley for this analogy): This argument has become more like a Nickelback Good/Bad argument rather than a Justin Bieber Good/Bad argument. How? There are so many arguments on this website about this topic that you become more of an outcast if you stay neutral, like me, than if you think one side or the other.
Look, I understand that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that. But what I don't respect is when people shove their opinions up your asshole and expect you to agree with them, no matter what. And if you don't agree with them, you immediately become an enemy to them. It's what happened to Klayyyy last year, with his Chamberlain GOAT argument, and it's happening to all of the Jordan GOAT believers this year. I don't mind people stating their own opinion, but people like J_Oak just piss me off. If you remember earlier in the year he wrote a rant about Jordan that literally blew my mind with the stupidity of the argument. Not that it was filled with lies. Many of his points were valid points. What was so stupid about it was that he posted it on every Jordan page and expected everybody to agree with him, no matter what the circumstances.
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TBH it really comes down to whether you think the title of GOAT is based on one season/someone's prime or the whole career. Wilt clearly had the best season of all time, Jordan clearly had the best career of all time. In both cases, it's not even close.
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That's why this whole argument is really annoying. It all depends on perspective. If you weigh stats more than success, than Wilt is definitely your man. But if you think success better defines a player than their stats, even if their stats are amazing, Jordan is the GOAT.
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I know it`s not really the place but Jordan didn`t have the best career, even if you`re judging achievements. Honestly neither does Wilt, Kareem wins the achievement battle.
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Jordan had an amazing career... it's definitely not the best but it's a very very good one especially considering he retired 3 times lolol
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thats exactly what he said you shouldnt do...make bold claims...you know how many people believe Prime Kobe would beat Prime MJ, or all those grandpas who undeniably think Oscar or Magic are GOAT. Opinions and even stats dont make something right or wrong or inevitable. I think people should stick to a top 5 or 10...then you can name Kobe, MJ, Wilt, Magic, Oscar and Shaq or somethin and the arguments wont be that crazy.
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Well Scalabrine thinks Kobe shouldn't be top 15 and that if AI played with Shaq we'd be talking about him instead. I say we all listen to Scal ;)
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this card should be at least 98, but i think 99
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no more 99 speed cheeeeeeese
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The speed was deserving. He was a track star
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but 99? dont think so
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At least 94, he was that fast. He ran 440 meters in 49 seconds
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That's not confirmed by any means. Still, Wilt deserves way higher speed. He was crazy fast especially for his size. I'd say 85-90 is realistic
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It is confirmed. 49 seconds was his official personal best on the 440 yard dash. It was at the Big 8 Track & Field Championships, where he also won in the high jump, broad jump, triple jump, and shot put
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60 FADEAWAY CMON 2K
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What do you mean? Too high or too low?
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way too low
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Yup, he was great at post fadeaways. He deserves at least a 90 post fade.
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Why is everyone saying wilt has a post fade... I wouldn't use him to post... I'd rather use Hakeem... I would bang inside with other centers if I was wilt.
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"Additionally, as these players have not been released there is a reasonable chance that 2K will change their ratings some time closer to release (if they are being released at all), so don't start complaining immediately if you find ratings that seem wrong."
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@Klayyyyyy Thoughts? I think honestly still a bit underrated. Was hoping for a 98 at least, and the fact that Bill Russell's card gets a 97 post hook while this has a 91 is a complete joke.
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Nah it`s ok. The big card is still coming. Think of this as his ROTY card (since this was his rookie season)
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Ok I've looked all over this website to see your opinion on Wilt. I've always thought of Jordan as the G.O.A.T. over Wilt, but this quote from John Havilcek solidified it for me. After Game 7 of the 1965 ECF, Havilcek said the reason he stole the ball was he knew they were trying to get it to Hal Greer and not Wilt. That shows you how universally disrespected Wilt's clutch abilities were. In contrast, look at the picture of Jordan's shot against the Jazz. Everyone in the crowd looks like their whole family just got shot right in front of them. I agree Wilt was the best pure basketball player ever, but if you have one shot to win the Finals, who do you give it to? The clutchest player ever or the guy who hid from the ball in big moments because he was afraid he's get fouled?
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You know that was the coaches decision right? As was Wilt sitting out in the 1969 finals. Both games were lost by bad coaching while Jordan and Russell had some of the greatest coaches ever.
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Actually Wilt got injured in the 1969 finals, he twisted his knee and according to him, it hurt so bad he couldn't even walk at the end of the game. There was a rumor that he took himself out of the game because they were losing by so much but both his coach, which hated him, and he rebutted these rumors.
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Exact same stats as 92 ovr Lakers Wilt but I heard 2K update is comin
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Yeah, 2K always updates the player shortly before they release them. You could see that with the ROTY collection as well. I mean they better upgrade this Wilt, 99 rebounding should be obvious.
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His post fadeaway should be 95+. If you think he wasn't good at fadeaways watch this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9MgNfcGJA
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These aren't the real stats 2k hasn't updated them so this site can't have the correct ones
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Yes, but his 71' stats are correct, at least from what I saw in historic domination, and he still had that fade, but they didn't give it to him. It's stupid, I think they are trying to lower his stats so he wouldn't be unstoppable, but if he was unstoppable in real life, why shouldn't he be in the game.
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Again, the stats aren't updated for this card which should be 96-98 overall, if not 99, and Wilt wasn't nearly as good in 71' and 72', he averaged about 14 ppg in those years and wasn't as good anymore
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This is joke 97 ovr should be 98 and this stats not really good.
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How is 1 overall less a "joke"?
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Should be a 99, so anything less than 98 is just disrespectful.
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Fine if you believe that, but @TheKingLBJ explicity states "should be 98". Saying 1less then what you want is disrespectful is a little silly.
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I get that he was knitpicking, but that is necessicary when it comes to defining the greats.
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This is joke 91 hook 92 fadeaway this should be higher and this stats not really good for wilt this stats going up maybe his going up the 98 i think.
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Cant believe im agreeing with a Lebron fan, but he's right. Even if this isnt Wilts 50 ppg season, but actually his rookie season, he scored 37 ppg and had 27 rebounds per game (second highest ever behind Wilts second season) and i can check but im pretty sure only Kobe (35 ppg), Barry (35ppg), Baylor (38ppg altho doesnt really count cuz he only played like 40 games) and MJ (37 PPG) are the only other players that averaged above 35ppg seasons...and this Wilt's 37.6 is higher than all of those... Also he was already a defensive beast and really only his 62 season tops this one...so should be a 98 like Kobe and the 62 season should get a 99.
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Just realized he has the same speed as a 39 year old Kareem gg 2K
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2K TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE BILL RUSSELL WAS AS GOOD AS AN INDIVIDUAL PLAYER AS WILT. 15-18 pts, 21 rebs bill: 97 ovr. 37 pts, 27 rebs wilt: 97 overall. 2k needs to do some research.
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Yea ikr! Mvp russell even has better inside scoring stats than wilt and has more athleticism in speed and quickness which is just so wrong
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78 inside scoring!!! lmao
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It's because of the driving dunk, driving layup, the fade, and moving shot close. Everything else is really good
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Suppose so but his fade and moving shot close is ridiculous
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this card shouldn't be a 99 it should be 98. 2k purposely didn't make a card for the '62 season, where he averaged 50 PPG and 30 RPG. since they have the stupid rule that no one can be 99 but jordan even though alot of these players had a better season/stat line then jordan in any of his season.
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Wow, we can't get a 98 overall out of him. AND STILL NOT 99 REBOUNDING!
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I know its ridiculous. He was a track star both running and jumping and 2K only gives him 76 speed and 82 vertical. Defense should also be way higher. There are estimates that Wilt was blocking around 10 a game and they gave him 94 block...
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Jumping isn't a part of track... you're just basing your arguments off of what Klay said, not coming up with you own answer. He jumped very high in game footage, but so did Bill Russell, and I don't see people complaining about that. All of what you're talking about is not quantifiable by stats (blocks at the time as well) and you're obviously biased/eager to give Wilt the benefit of the doubt. He was a track star in High School in the 50's, back when the mile time in under 4 minutes seemed to be inhuman. Now it's 3:43- Roger Bannister made the first 4 minute mile at 3:57 in 1954 (Chariots of Fire anyone?). Even kinda fast guys by NBA standards would be track stars in High School. Does Wilt deserve a better rating than 76 speed? Sure, but it's not "ridiculous". Should he have a better vertical? Maybe, probably not. Should he have "way higher defense"? He already has 95 post defense, and Bill Russell is regarded as a better defender than Wilt anyways so based on 2k's system it not only can't get "way higher" but shouldn't. Complaining about stats there is almost no evidence of is kinda stupid, especially when you copy the arguments from someone else when you don't know where or who THEY got it from.
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Your starting to get into the they shouldn't be given high speeds because people were less athletic in that era, but if we do that then we might as well rate all of the all-time greats from the early years 80 overalls. They weren't as athletic as now and they weren't as talented so we have to account for that in base the ratings off of their era.
And I don't pay attention to Klay, I make my arguments off of primary sources that have seem Wilt and actual research. Some more reliable than others, such as members of NBA staffs that have seen Wilt touching the top of the backboard which would require about a 45 inch vertical. And yes it is "ridiculous" to not give PRIME Wilt higher speed than 76 when your giving an old Kareem 75 speed. It is also 100% fair to argue about his block when there are estimates out there that have him blocking 11-12 shots a game in his prime.
You also mentioned footage, but there is hardly any footage from when Wilt was in his prime, most of the footage we have on him is an older Wilt so its hard to look at the footage and actually judge him athletically other than by primary sources that have watched Wilt in his youth.
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He does deserve 99 rebounding though, the stats show that clearly. He played 13 years and he's #1 all time in total boards...
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2k doesn't want to give players many 99 attributes, it's not 2k15
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Excactly, but Wilt is first in rebounds all time and RPG, and single season rebound totals and RPG, and most rebounds in a game. He deserves it.
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True, he should be the only player with a 99 rebounding. But if 2k is going to be 2k, he should have a 98 offensive and defensive rebounding with a 99 boxout
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Yeah since they gave the offensive rebounding nod to Rodman, which I think he deserves. Wilt clearly should have 99 defensive and boxout though
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I think he should be a little bit faster. I mean if willie trill caulie stein (that is his legal name) can get a 85 speed, Prime Wilt should get atleast a 80. Maybe higher.
And his post fade should be a little higher.
Overall I think 2K did a ok job on making a prime wilt though.
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hopefully they update that 76 speed O.o
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They better
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This is probably the most underrated diamond in the game
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I tried to create a Wilt Chamberlain with ratings that reflected his peak abilities(i make no claims to these being accurate) and is a 98 OVR so as to keep Jordan as the only 99 OVR.
Attribute Rating(grades first)
Inside Scoring A+
Mid-Range Scoring C+
3PT Scoring F
Playmaking B+
Perimeter Defense B+
Post Defense A+
Rebounding A+
Athleticism A+
Basketball IQ A
I will post the overall stats within the next couple of days.
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The thing with a Moments Wilt based on his 100 point game is that he would have a free throw rating of 87 or 88 (he shot 28-32 from the line for 87.5%)
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that would be so unstoppable. now they HAVE to make a moments wilt. would be amazing to have a wilt with good freethrow rating
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Honestly the reason I think they wont make one is because they know they cannot possibly make that card and have it not be a 99. If they want to keep their only 1 card is a 99 rule, they couldn't ever possibly make that card.
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Yea sadly. Wilt is too good for 2k
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Wilt deserves this he scored 100!!! points in a game and he played for the lakers so you know he has to have a diamond card
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Just watched 1960s Wilt highlights. Card rating make no sense.
2k gets caught up in the politics of the NBA, always has.
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Yes cause you have the ability to rate cards based on highlight videos now.
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Not entirely. The raw athleticism was apparent in actual footage (which is an important part of opinions), and in my opinion did not translate to the stats given. So yeah you can and should take game footage into consideration, however no other factors should be taken into consideration as well.
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It's not highlight videos, its the only videos.
It would be interesting to see a Michael Jordan highlights video based on these criteria.
1) Cannot be from a game where Jordan scored 40 or more points
2) Highlights must be no more than 2.5% of the minutes Jordan played in his career (as in the total length of the video)
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He should be a 98. He became MVP this year as a rookie. Only him and Wes Unseld ever did that. IDK why Unseld deserved it, but anyway. He averaged 37.6 PPG and 27 RPG. He was a track and field athlete, why is his speed only in the mid 70's. He should be like 90 or more. He should have better post control and fadeaway. He dominated the league with his post presence. If they made something like that 99 Onyx Chamberlain last year, I would be fucking happy. I loved that card. Also, why is 2K so lazy. They kept his 71 Lakers body and put it in this card. They better fix some things in 2k17.
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How to score against this Wilt: pick n roll because he's so slow
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His speed will be upgraded to at least 80, maybe even in the 90's. So that might work with the older Wilts, but not this one when it is released
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I'm surprised 2K made his ratings this low in the first place. Wilt was a total beast, besides his free throws.
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I'm not, in the years his normal cards are in, he doesn't even deserve to be an amethyst. Between those years he averaged 14 PPG
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I think this Wilt deserves an amethyst. He averaged 38 points and 27 rebounds per game. Wilt is easy AF to stop because you can just Hack-a-Wilt.
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No, you don't get what I'm saying. The cards are based off certain years, not his career, and those two cards were at the very end of his career in his later years where he averaged 14 PPG between those two seasons. So this card, in his prime, which I think is when he averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds per game, deserves to be a 98-99 OVR (and will be updated to a diamond when it is released I'm sure), but the other ones shouldn't be amethysts, but good golds.
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Better or worse than Kareem?
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Better but I'll never use because I'm not dealing with players than don't have a decent mid-range and free-throw, and then Kareem's sky hook will be unstoppable.
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Should be a 99 overall, but since 2K has reserved that for Jordan he should be a 98. Athleticism and defense need to be seriously improved, then post hook should be boosted a little and post fadeaway definitely needs to be at least in the 80s.
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this is ridiculous. 2k thinks Dwight Howard was fast and quicker than Wilt Chamberlain.i mean They give Shaq 99 strength and a few others but not Wilt. They don't even give him 99 rebounding. He should have a 99 standing layup and a higher block rating. This card should be a 99 overall but 2k is scared to put anyone near Michael Jordan.
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Sick card! Although would've liked to see a 90 or higher vertical considering people in his day said he could touch the top of the backboard.
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This is pretty accurate, other than maybe a bit higher speed, close shot, and midrange.
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92 POST FADE DO YOUR RESEARCH 2K!!
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This card looks kind of disappointing compared to his onyx from last year, that card was a blast to play with. We'll see how he plays in game. Once again I'm tricking myself into thinking he will actually be attainable.
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WHAT TO UPGRADE:
Speed: (86-88, he was a track and field star)
Acceleration: (80-ish)
Standing dunk: (99)
Post hook: (95-96, he had this almost unstoppable move)
Strength: (99, go watch YouTube)
Rebounding: (all 99!, he averaged 27 rpg)
Overall: 98 or 99. He averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds. and this was his rookie year
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completely agree but I would also upgrade:
standing layup 99
block 99
vertical 86-90 (bill russell has an 85 vertical but Wilt could jump higher. If you watch clips and add up his wingspan, the height his hand went to the backboard, etc, he would have around a 40 inch vertical, maybe higher.
post fadeaway 97
They also need to change his post fadeaway animation because in real life it was unblockable but in this is really easy to block.
I'm not a guy that thinks Wilt had a 55 inch vertical or could bench 600 pounds but I do consider him the greatest and most dominant player ever. If he played today and how there is no hand checking and people can't wrap up the post player, he would score 50 a game at least. same goes with other players like Jordan, Hakeem, etc. I hate how the game is today.
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Yeah, he had a very weird post fade But they wouldn't add it. Kinda like Bob Pettit's jumpshot. Pettit's shot in real life looks like shit and would probably get blocked 9/10. I guess they thought that the fade would be OP. and in this year, Wilt averaged 27 rebounds a game while Bill Russell averaged around 21 in his mvp card. BUT RUSSELL HAS BETTER REBOUNDING. talk about not doing their research!
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Does anyone know what the player mold is for this card? I want to make sure that 2K didn't just use the player mold of the 34 year old Wilt before buying. Does the Wilt for this card look young or like his 34 year old mold?
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he has the player mold of the 34 year old sadly. still a beast tho. i would still recommend buying him even tho he doesnt look young
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Can someone who has him tell me if he is worth it or not? I don't buy vc so my mt is somewhat limited. Wilt is my favorite player but not sure if he would play well, knowing his post fadeaway animation is bad. I also hate how 2k made him slower than Kareem and Bill Russell.
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i think he is awesome but at the moment he is going for over 300k on ps4 which is a 100k rise from yesterday when he was 220k ish. i hope his price will drop back to what it was if not lower because prices are supposed to drop over time not rise.
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Why is the MVP russell have better or the same as almost every stat as wilt. russell should not have anything inside scoring wise better than wilt, and should have worse rebounding, worse athleticism and worse ball handling/passing
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so bullshit that mj will be the only player allowed to have a 99 rating. there were more than just one player in nba history deserving of a 99. that bucks kareem, this 60' wilt, 13' LeBron, 81 point kobe. just fuckery the way 2k is knob gobbing mj this year. But a lowering of a attribute here that should be higher a tweak there of another one and there you go! a 97 or 98 that should be a 99. bullshit
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idk if wilt should be a 99 but I've tried hard to make an accurate wilt with create a player and it's impossible to make him not 99. Also if Lebron gets a 99 card wilt (and Kobe) should get one too.
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2k is scared to make this 99, like lower inside scoring than russell. I personally dont think hes the goat, but he should be 99
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Please help me with my lineup. Much appreciated
http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/306435/current-lineup
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100 Point Game = 99 OVR. But I'm pretty sure(correct me if I'm wrong) 2k doesn't use "Moments" for Historical Players. If Wilt Chamberlain got the 100 point game like yesterday, 2k would rush to make him a moments card that is 99 overall. But, unfortunately this is a 1960s player and doesn't earn the respect he deserves.
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how does he not have a 99 strength, he was and still remains the strongest player ever
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Release a 99 wilt 2k pls.
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You know they just won't...
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I can't get over 2k's bullshit rating system, they gave Lebron the literally highest rated card in 2k16 for getting 41 points while Wilt gets 100 points and literally no recognition by 2k
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Why do you think wilt was so good putting up 100 points in his days. well ill tell you why. wilt is not even that good just think about it, everybody was small back then in the nba when wilt was playing they did not care whether or not your tall or not. he was the tallest guy in the nba at that time and obviously your gonna be beating everyone if everyone is 5'8 and 5'9 and under sometimes feet to 6'4 if i was that tall in that time period ill be putting up the same numbers.
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any lineup suggestions? it would be greatly appreciated! http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/22125/current-god-squad
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Anybody mind rating my lineup/giving me some suggestions?
http://2kmtcentral.com/16/lineups/93195/current-lineup
I'll be getting Diamond Kareem at the end of the Suns challenges btw.
Thanks!
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Kobe Bryant: 81 point game: 98 overall
Wilt Chamberlain: 100 point game: 97 overall
LeBron James: 61 point game: 99 overall (Not Released)
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I don't get one bit why people consider Wilt "The GOAT." Yeah, he's one of the most complete centers we've ever seen. Did people forget that you could stop "The GOAT" by simply hacking him? Wilt is almost useless on offense with the Hack-a-Wilt strategy, so that makes him a one-way player. I'd take Hakeem and Kareem over Wilt anyway because "The GOAT" is someone that can do it all without getting stopped by simply fouling them intentionally.
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The Knicks tried to Hack-A-Wilt once... Guess how that went for them?
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Just because he shot well from the free throw line for one game, that doesn't mean he's a good free throw shooter. Even Shaq had good games shooting from the free throw line and he's arguably the worst free throw shooter of all-time. Wilt would shoot a bad percentage in 99 out of 100 games, so that one game was just a fluke. Wilt's best percentage for free throws was 61%, which is still bad for a guy that shot 51% from the field in the same season. You can't justify his terrible free throw percentage in any way, no matter how hard you try.
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Are you implying teams didn't use Hack-A-Wilt when he played?
Wilt Chamberlain had the most FTA in the league for his first 6 seasons and lead the league in PPG in all those seasons.
http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_bio.html
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If they really implied the Hack-a-Wilt strategy, they'd hack Wilt all game and not just parts of the game. You can tell that Wilt's opponents didn't hack Wilt all game because he had 2,000 to over 3,000 attempts per season from the field in his first five seasons. If Wilt was hacked all game, he'd have a very limited amount of field goal attempts because someone would've hacked him before he even touched the ball. Wilt was never good enough at free throws to not hack him, even during his glory year with the Warriors. Let me prove to you how hacking Wilt would put himself and his team in a very difficult situation based off of statistics during the season Wilt averaged 61% from the line, which is tops in his career, and 51% from the field. The odds of Wilt scoring two points in a possession by taking a shot from the field is 51% because that's what the field goal percentage is based off of. The odds of Wilt getting two points in a possession where he got hacked is 37% because you multiply 0.61 by 0.61. In other words, Wilt's scoring percentage would be a weak 37% if he got hacked all game. If anyone with a logical mind were to choose which strategy they'd use on Wilt, they'd pick hacking Wilt any day. Imagine if a team's offense was based entirely off Wilt's free throws just liked I showed. It is nearly impossible to beat a team when the odds of the team scoring two points are 37% because almost every team has a better chance of scoring two points than that. The only two ways you can beat a team when a team's odds of scoring two points are 37% are if the team's defense is that good or the opponents just absolutely suck. A lineup of pure scorers like Curry, Harden, Korver, a consistent Kevin Love and Kanter would be good enough because only offense is needed when implying the Hack-a-somebody strategy.
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Considering the number of shots Wilt would take per game practically the whole bench would be in foul trouble. If you fouled Wilt like they did back when he played you would probably get called for a flagrant one foul.
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People may be in foul trouble, but it's worth it because Wilt's team would struggle to score. Wilt had to score so much because his teammates weren't that good at times. It's worth being in foul trouble to make a team so inefficient, which is the whole point of Hack-a-Wilt. A flagrant foul in today's game would be a common foul in Wilt's days. As time went on, more calls started becoming flare rants for safety. All it takes for someone to commonly foul Wilt is to touch his body anywhere below his shoulders in today's game, yet back in those hardcore days.
2k will never release a 61'-62' wilt. Then 2k would have no excuse but to make him a 99. and you know we can't have anyone on the same level as "oh my goodness second coming of jesus Christ" Michael Jordan.
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Show 6 replies...If that 99 OVR TBT Lebron is real then they could release a 61-62 Wilt, or better yet a 100 point game Moments card.
Also, that 99 overall Kobe hopefully means we'll be getting 100 point Wilt this year.
No, 99 Kobe is a moments card. They don't do moments for historic players.
except jordan's 81 ovr
totally agree
That was jenius
The problem is ignorant little 2k doesn't want Wilt to be better than Jordan which these upgrades could do. It is arguable that Wilt isn't the best ever but this was a better individual season than Jordan's '91 season. I am completely against that 98 strength though. Wilt can lift more than Shaq yet his strength is inferior, 2k logic I swear.
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Show 4 replies...The problem is this is '60 Wilt. For '62 Wilt this would probably be appropriate, but Wilt averaged 37 PPG on 46 percent shooting- and Klay's main argument to why Bill Russell sucks is that he shot under 50 percent which is apparently TERRIBLE for a center (according to Klay). A few things about this card should be higher, yes, but he should NOT be 99. Per 100 possessions this season really doesn't look amazing apart from the rebounding (but that is due to the increased pace and lower FG% by far). Yeah, some stats are wrong (in both ways), but '60 Wilt certainly does not deserve to be 99 OVR.
Good point but some of these stats should still be upgraded. I wish they would release a '62 Wilt or 100 point game moments card (even though I would have litterally no chance of getting it) however, as I said before, they don't want a Wilt to be better than Jordan so we're stuck with this Wilt that doesn't look better than Jordan. Phew, wouldn't want Wilt to look better than Jordan, that would be an ABSOLUTE disaster!
There's no way Wilt could lift more than Shaq. Shaq was 50 pounds heavier and he played in an era where much more emphasis was placed on weightlifting.
So?
Also the rebounding, I know im knit-picking here but...27 RPG yet same rebounding as Kevin Love and Bill Russell...I know theyre all great rebounders...but 27RPG is head and shoulders above the rest - only Wilts second season 27.2 is slightly better. Should definitely be 99, 99, 99 on the rebounding categories, simple as that.
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Show 31 replies...Bill had 24rpg which is savage too tho. That and defending is all that should be even similar to wilt tho. Defense better, rebounding slightly worse, everthing else worse
yeah yeah Russell deserves crazy rebounding, but all those bums like Love dont and Wilt shoudl have 99, 99, 99 simple as that, no clue why they dont give the best rebounder ever full attributes :/
I agree completely. Kevin Love's is just for one game where he got a bunch of boards tho so that kinda makes sense. Bill and Wilt's rebounding should be hella higher than other's tho. Wilt specifically full 99, and maybe Bill with that 99, 99, 98 or something
this cards free throw should be higher too wilt is tied for the most free throws made in 1 game
Well check how many he attempted... Wilt wasn't a very good free throw shooter, like around 60% I believe.
actually the one game he had the most free throws he went 28 for 32. but usually was about 50-60% or even less.
That was his 100 point game.
true, but it could still be at least a 60...
Yeah it should prolly be a 60. The way 2k does it is that the percentage they shot is the rating they get. He shot 58% that season, hence why he got the 58 rating
yeah, and also this man should be a 99 come on, 50 POINTS PER GAME, 25.7 REBOUNDS?! the inside scoring and rebounding should be 99
Yeah, well he didn't average 50 points 26 rebounds this season, that was a different season, but I agree one of the Wilt card should be a 99.
oh yeah, but STILL had 27 rebs and 37pts this season, better than jordan
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Definitely deserves at least 99 defensive rebound for this year.
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Agree with everything but the mid-range shot. I don't think it should be any higher than a 74 in that category. David Robinson only got a 75.
Wilt should also have a much higher free throw rating as he could easily dunk from the free throw line and that was legal in his era. He is actually part of the reason why the NBA changed the rule to you have to MAINTAIN your feet behind the free throw line while taking free throws. Wilt was so much of a beast he had to be caged by the rules.
that's because 2k doesn't want anyone to be 99 other than Jordan this year. 2k on that bullshit this year. this card should be a 99 no doubt.
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Show 2 replies...well, kobe and lebron man, lol
lool, I made this comment before then. wouldn't be surprised if they just made them a 99 shut people up. I mean how is 60 point kobe a 99 but not 81 point kobe? simple, they had no plans of making anyone else a 99 other than Mike. just speculation of course.
His passing should be in the 90's.
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@SmoothSniper11 naw he slow as fuck
I didn't think he had a mid range jumper
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Show 1 reply...he had his fadeaway, he can kinda shoot, but i also don't think he hit it from further than like 10-12 ft i think
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Whats ypur basis for giving him 99 block when blocks weren't recorded at the time.
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Show 13 replies...He blocked 26 shots in a game. However, that's not my whole basis for it. If blocks were recorded back in those days, Wilt and Russell would most likely be number 1 and number 2 on the all-time blocks list (in no particular order). Keeping that in mind while the ratings go by an all-time scale, it does help their case. Some blocks were goaltends, which allowed them to get more blocks than they probably should have gotten. With that being said, you also have to add the players that played in those days saying that they were pretty much the GOAT shot blockers. Wilt even blocked Kareem's skyhook a couple of times, and that's when he was wayyyyyy past his prime.
There's a great channel on YouTube that have highlights on the history of the game. It's called Wilt Chamberlain Archive. This video in particular highlights his defensive abilities: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_j5q0XjUAHc
Probably the second best blocker of all time, maybe not finesse but definitely quantity.
Yeah I agree it's a shame too, because Russell was a great shot blocker and I've heard shit about Wilt blocking like 20+ shots in a game
Russell was a better defender overall, but Wilt blocked more shots.
Yeah I've watched them before, theyre very good. The only thing I'd say would be Wilt's vert plays a huge part and there really isn't a way to tell apart skill from athleticism.
Russell tho definitely deserves it, he wasn't athletically imposing but still garnered a reputation.
Um... it doesn't go down depending how much athleticism it takes to block shots, he was still blocking shots, so he should be able to block shots like that in the game
No, vert does matter in blocking shots in 2k, lmao. Actually play the game and you'd realise that.
You don't understand what I am saying is you cannot take down the rating for block just because of his athleticism and vert
No, you can. Because then athletjic players like Gerald Green get far more blocks then their rating should allow.
muggsy get 4 blocks a game for me
95 vertical
Height is another factor
muggsy is the best C in the game super quick
Russell was athletic also. He once jumped over a guy and jumped from the free throw line too.