'85 Michael Jordan gold card

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Name Michael Jordan
Edition 1985
Theme Moments
Collection Moments 1
Position SG / SF
Age 21
Height 6'6"
Weight 195lbs
From North Carolina
Plays Isolation, Mid Range, Cutter
Sell Value 1300
Added September 30th, 2015
7,000
June 24th, 2016
2,350
June 28th, 2016
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81 Overall

67 Outside scoring

  • 75 Standing shot mid
  • 78 Moving shot mid
  • 55 Standing shot 3pt
  • 54 Moving shot 3pt
  • 72 Shot IQ
  • 76 Free throw
  • 75 Off. consistency

81 Inside scoring

  • 84 Standing shot close
  • 85 Moving shot close
  • 85 Standing layup
  • 84 Driving layup
  • 45 Standing dunk
  • 90 Driving dunk
  • 30 Contact dunk
  • 54 Draw foul
  • 52 Post control
  • 40 Post hook
  • 72 Post fadeaway
  • 80 Hands

66 Playmaking

  • 84 Ball control
  • 65 Passing accuracy
  • 54 Passing vision
  • 66 Passing IQ

92 Athleticism

  • 91 Speed
  • 92 Acceleration
  • 99 Vertical
  • 54 Strength
  • 99 Stamina
  • 85 Hustle
  • 88 Overall durability

76 Defending

  • 76 On-ball def. IQ
  • 61 Low post def. IQ
  • 75 Pick & roll def. IQ
  • 74 Help def. IQ
  • 76 Lateral quickness
  • 72 Pass perception
  • 78 Reaction time
  • 92 Steal
  • 67 Block
  • 79 Shot contest
  • 70 Def. consistency

50 Rebounding

  • 52 Offensive rebound
  • 51 Defensive rebound
  • 42 Boxout

3128 Total attr.


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    9

    81 overall for 1985 is still more realistic than 99 overall for 1998...

    10

    This card is based on his first game,not his entire first season. If this card was based of his first season he probably would be like a 94 or something like that. In case you didn't know

    7

    IT SHOULD NOOOOT be in the 90's bruh, was MJ your dad?

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    5

    I don't really think his first season should be in the 90's, I just said 94 as a figure, since it seemed more likely that for his first season he should be rated a lot higher than an 81. His ROTY card I feel is about on point for what he did in his rookie season.

    6

    Sorry I didn't know that. I never said it was the right rating for his rookie season anyway. IMO he should be in the mid to high 80's for his rookie season, but he should be about the same for his 1998 season, instead of a 99.


    81-87/88 is less of a gap than 99-87/88

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    2

    A 99 for the 97-98 version is laughable. How on earth is that the second best card. Plenty of players had better seasons than that one.

    1

    Okay they released a 89 overall card from his whole rookie season. Maybe 1-2 overall too high but I'll take it.

    2

    I think the reason MJ is considered the G.O.A.T is because when he played he looked like he was. Sure the statistics say he wasn't the greatest in any stat but it was the the fact that he was a crowd pleaser and also how he seemed to hit every game winner time after time that he is considered the best. IMO of course

    0

    But see I disagree, I think 99 or 98 whatever the rating is for the 1998 Jordan is correct. He won MVP and All-Star Game MVP, he averaged 28.7 PPG which was the league best. He carried the Bulls for most of the year without Pippen because he was injured, to a 62-20 record which was the best record in the NBA. Then in the Finals he averaged 33.5 PPG. So I think it is accurate to his season.

    2

    Allen Iverson basically did that in 2001... He got a 93

    2

    Yeah but Michael Jordan was a much better defensive player, he also won his sixth championship. He also had one of the clutchest shots of all time in the finals the give the Bulls a one point lead. He also played every game and the Bulls had a record of 62-20. While the 76ers had a 56-26 record and Allen Iverson played in 71 games. So I believe Jordan a better season than Iverson.

    3

    Iverson had 34 year old Mutombo for half a season and no one else who should ever be a key player on a finals team. Iverson led the league in seals that season and was his teams best perimeter defender by a mile, Pippen took up half of Jordan's perimeter assignments and Rodman wasn't exactly bad at defending the paint either. Fair to say that the difference in teammates was worth more than 6 wins too, especially if Iverson missed games, which would surely prove his valuable more? What Iverson did in game 1 of the 2001 finals was 1000X more clutch than that overrated shot Jordan made and was against Kobe, slightly more difficult than Jeff Hornacek...

    Prime Jordan is better than Iverson and that I won't argue. How ether Jordan's 1998 (or heck even 1996) season wasn't as good as Iversons 2001, prime Jordan (1989/ late 80's, early 90's) was worthy of a 99 under the old rating system, but the late 90's ones don't deserve close to that.

    2

    Just for the record I know Jordan's shot was on Byron Russell, but most of the time he was against Hornacek who was better than Russell anyway.

    0

    I get what you mean when Iverson carried his team, but Pippen only played in 44 games during the whole season which means for the other 38 games Jordan would have to have guarded the other team's best player. During the ECF vs the Pacers Jordan was defending Reggie Miller who was the Pacers best player. While Pippen defended Mark Jackson. Also when you say Rodman wasn't bad in defending the paint, that has nothing to do with how Jordan had to guard a Reggie Miller, a young Kobe Bryant, a Clyde Drexler etc for all those games when Pippen was injured.


    So when you say Jordan's 1996 season when he had a MVP sweep and he led the Bulls to 72-10 record and you say Iverson had a better season. I don't get what you mean.

    Prime Jordan would have been in the early 90s I agree but the late 90s Jordan is when he shot the ball and the 3 point shot better. He also got smarter in his basketball IQ.

    3

    In 1998 Jordan still had Rodman, a beast bench, Phil Jackson and barley any competition at SG, as well as Pippen in the playoffs. The 1998 ECF went to a close game 7, if you compare the teams it should never have been that close. Young Kobe was a bench player and Clyde was in his last season, and both were in the west.

    In 2001 Iverson won MVP and ASG MVP, if the FMVP could go to someone on the losing team as much as it could the winning one, then Iverson would have won FMVP too. Jordan had a way better team, how can you expect Iverson to take that Sixers team as far as the 96 Bulls? Judging team record is pointless, it's like saying 96 Jordan would take the 2012 Bobcats to a 72-10 record and Iverson would take them to a 58-24 win record, different teams = Unfair judgement.

    Late 90's Jordan was like current Melo (ok Melo from a few years ago), obviously not bad but no where near top 5 all time worthy seasons, like he was having in the late 80's/early 90's.

    0

    Yes but in 1998 during the time Pippen was injured Jordan had to guard the other teams best player. In the two games the Bulls played the Lakers Kobe had 30+ points with Shaq as well. He would have also played against Allen Iverson, Glen Rice, Penny Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Gary Payton, Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, Eddie Jones, Mitch Richmond.

    I said when you say Allen Iverson had a better season than Jordan's 1996 season I didn't understand what you meant because Jordan won regular season MVP, All-Star Game MVP, Finals MVP. While playing 82 games. I never said Jordan could take the 2012 Bobcats to a 72-10 record.

    I agree that Jordan's late 90s seasons are nowhere as impressive as his late 80s early 90s seasons were. But I look at the seasons he won championships in are more impressive. Because you see that he was not trying to do everything by himself.

    0

    Also Allen Iverson's game 1 performance was great but he only gave the 76ers one win in the series, while Jordan's shot was to win his sixth championship. As good as Kobe was he was not a premier defender back in 2001

    1

    Do you think any of Jordan's 1998 finals performances would have carried that Sixers team to a win? Cuz it doesn't seem like they would. Not to mention Jordan's shot was a mildly contested mid on Byrpn Russell that Bruno Caboclo would make 75% of the time

    0

    I think it would have given them another win, in 1998 Finals Pippen only averaged 15.7 ppg. I don't think they would have won but I think Jordan's leadership and his better defense would have made it a 6 game series. Allen Iverson is one of my favourite players ( I was really bummed out when they didn't put in a 2007-2008 Denver Nuggets team with Iverson and a athletic Melo) but I think in the 2001 Finals Jordan would have given them another win.

    As a side note I really like this debate we have been having.

    3

    *Jacksons leadership and Rodmans defense (on Malone).

    It's not even necessarily how good Iverson was in the whole series, but how good he was in that 1 win, since he'd have to score 45+ points just to get one. I doubt Jordan would have been able to score that much especially with prime Shaq limiting his inside game, something he relied on far more than Iverson. Iverson also had his own iconic play (Tyrone Lue ankle breaker) in that game 1 victory remember.

    0

    Oh ok I see what you mean.

    Yeah but when you look at Jordan's fadeaway on which is almost impossible to guard and the games where Shaq fouled out or had to sit because of foul trouble I think that is when Jordan would've taken over. Jordan had beaten Shaq in the 1996 playoffs and when you say limited his inside scoring Allen Iverson relied on that a lot in the finals as well. So that's why I think Jordan would've given them another win because he would be able to post up defenders, or drive inside.

    1

    Jordan also lost to Shaq and Penny's Magic in 1995, the difference the following year wasn't Jordan getting use to the NBA again after his comeback but IMO Rodman locking down Shaq, heck some guy even made an hour long documentary called "Rodman schools and destroys Shaq" based on their match ups! You've also got to remember that with no help Jordan's Bulls never reached .500.despite Jordan averaging 37 PPG one season, this was a 30 win team already so weren't exactly miles away. If Jordan couldn't carry those scrubs far then I doubt he could take those Sixers scrubs to a finals win against an unbeaten playoff team (the Bulls had a 1-12 playoff record in Jordan's first 3 seasons remember).

    Although Jordan's first 3 seasons were very different than 1996 and 1998 he was undoubtedly a better player then.

    0

    But in the 1996 series Shaq only scored lower 20 points the other games he had 27, 36 and 28 points. Rodman's best defense against Shaq was in the next season when the Lakers played the Bulls and ended up with Shaq getting to a fight with Rodman. Also it was due to Jordan getting his confidence back and getting back into basketball shape.

    Umm the season the Bulls only won 30 games was when Jordan broke his foot and only played 17 games. Not the season where he averaged 37 PPG. Also the late 80s Bulls were only slightly better than 2001 76ers.

    1

    I meant they were a 30 win team without Jordan (I.e. 1986) they only won 10 more games when he came back and averaged 37 PPG.

    Rodmans impact wasn't just defense but on the glass too, Shaqs rebounding averages went down by 3 RPG in more minutes and Horace Grant, although he only played 28 minutes of game 1, had 1 rebound in that time. You can't attribute it to Jordan though as his matchup Hardaway averaged 7 PPG more in the 1996 series while he himself averaged similar stats to the year before.

    The late 80's Bulls didn't win a finals game though... The 01 Sixers did.

    0

    Yes but that is what I am sayin of you replace Iverson with Jordan I think that it would have been a 6 game series due to Jordan's better defense, his better leadership and his better scoring due to how he is taller and could have backed down Kobe.

    1

    Shaq was the main option on the early 2000 Lakers so Jordan's defensive advantage would be partially nullified. Jordan may have had the most leadership but Iverson led his team more (if that makes sense?) and Jordan was the same height as Kobe, and could just be double teamed down low with guys like Jermuaine Jones, Aaron Mckie and Eric Snow being the pass out options... Jordan Being on that 01 Sixers team against those Lakers would be just about the worst possible matchup for him.

    0

    Yeah but Iverson is what 6 feet tall going up against a 6ft 6 Kobe Bryant and while Jordan and Kobe are the same size Jordan could post up on Kobe which is something Allen Iverson couldn't and if was doubled teamed he could pass out to open guys. Now if they make them that is another question but Jordan would have had a easier time against Kobe, Rick Fox etc rather than Allen Iverson had a bad height mismatch. Allen Iverson did have a good Finals I'm not arguing that but I am saying Jordan would have a easier time getting buckets than Iverson due to his height. That isn't the worst matchup for Jordan because the Lakers only really had Kobe and Rick Fox as it's best perimeter defenders. I think a worst matchup for Jordan would be against a team like the Warriors where they have more players that guard Jordan. Like Iguodala, Klay, Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green to make interesting for Jordan. So that pretty much sums up my argument.

    0

    Yeah I remember the ankle breaker but Jordan's shot was 10000x clutcher

    1

    But Jordan's was 1 shot, Iversons whole game was clutcher

    0

    But how though Jordan had 45 points in Game 6 for the championship and scored the last bucket against one of the Jazz's best perimeter defenders. But Allen Iverson did it in Game one and lost the series

    1

    Jordan went 15-35 (43%) and had 1 assist V Byron Russell, Iverson went 18-41 (44%) with 6 assists and 5 steals V Kobe and Shaq. That Jazz team was so bad at defending the paint they literally had 0 blocks in that game!

    0

    Yeah but again this was in Game 6 for the championship ... not Game 1 and in Game 5 Iverson shot 14-32 (43%) 2 assists 3 turnovers and 5 fouls.

    1

    But we're talking about game 1. If anything Jordan had the easier situation, if they lost they still had a game 7 at home and would still be favourites, Iverson on the other hand was playing for a team that was expected to be swept and had just finished back to back 7 game series. Iversons game 5 still looks as good as Jordan's game 6 from those stats.

    0

    But how it was up to Jordan to carry the Bulls, Pippen injured himself in the first basket and he only scored 8 points, it was up to Jordan to give them the W and how is going to Game 7 a good fall back where anything could happen. That is not a good situation to be in. But Iverson's caseit was Game 1 where he had the whole series to look forward to. But how though Allen Iverson almost fouled out in a critical elimination game and had 3 turnovers. Compared to Jordan's who was the Bulls only option on offense and while it was the same situation for Allen Iverson but Jordan only had 1 turnover and 4 steals and had more points. Jordan's game was much better than Iverson's.

    0

    Jordan wasn't a good defensive player in 1998.

    0

    He was still a good defender,just not as quick.

    0

    MJ isn't 99 this year for 1998. He only has one 99 card (gold that is).

    2

    "Moments cards are only for players still in the league."

    1

    Great card for this early part since the game's release. His can still shoot pretty good if you take smart shots with him. But, his main ability is his speed and ability to attack the rim. He gets a lot of and one's for me and dunks a lot. His defense is solid for early in the game and has the perimeter lockdown defender badge. Since he is sellable if you can pick him up I would say for early in the game it would be a good idea.

    1

    Great player, but I would rather have Silver Kevin Durant..

    1

    Anyone else having trouble upgrading badges? Some badges that I try upgrading stay as bronze and the badge remains in my collection

    1

    This is a terrible card, he Is only good for layups and dunks and still, his layup isn't even in the 90's. SMH

    0

    Got 2 runes from 2 Jordans GG :D

    0

    go Michael jordon go

    0

    posterizing everyone, amazing card

    0

    BEst Jordan Card in the game fax.


    P.S. I want downvotes :=|

    0
    0

    Must have for gauntlet, it is a good choice for PG/SG combo because of its athletism and defense. Burden on 3pt yet make it up by creating havoc in the paint. 4 block and 2 steals pg.

    0

    I start him instead of Klay Thompson and paul george

    0

    mj isnt in the 15-16 season

    0

    I can't redeem this code though. I entered it like 10 times and I still couldn't get it.
    (T-T)

    1

    if you're on ps4, did you remember to take the dashes out?

    0
    0

    I can only speak for myself, but a lot of his dunks get blocked when I use him.
    Maybe I just suck or the same ole 2k from every year is creeping up

    0

    Should I cop for the low low price for like 3k MT?

    0
    0

    He tries to dunk everything, can't shoot

    0

    All he does is drain threes 24/7

    0

    my friend drains with him but ive only scored like 2 with him lol

    0

    any suggestion on an SG who can is a good on fastbreak and transition as he is with the addition of outside scoring??

    0

    i would say john wall even though he is not a point guard but his speed and acceleration is high and derrick rose has a very high speed and accelration. John Wall would be the one i would prefer i have him on my team and is very good on the break

    0

    How is this based off his first game if his first game was in '84, hm???

    -1

    Why does 2k make a moments card that's way worse than his other cards

    -1
    -1

    81 is a fucking lie

    0

    is this card worth it?

    -6

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    1

    Sorry, accidently clicked on reported and could't undo it. Please ignore it @ the monitors! Sorry again dude

    1

    did you say Curry? lol

    0

    ...did he just say a winner of DPOY wasn't a good defender? dafuq

    -1

    Stop saying this on every Jordan page, I respect your opinion but don't discredit Michael Jordan as a terrible player. Calling Michael Jordan a terrible player is like calling Steve Jobs a dumbass. You keep on using the same reason-Wilt wins more games by himself, he is better-Name me one person who took a team to the finals AND WON! Wilt didn't do that. The year the 76ers won he actually took less shots and passed more. Okay, I think Wilt is a better athlete and basketball player but stop saying Michael Jordan is a terrible player. He is not a terrible basketball player! You want an overrated player? Try Charles Barkley or Shaquille O'Neal. Also I don't know if you remember this but between 1985-1993 Jordan was possible the best defender in the league, his only weakness was being posted up, which was exploited by Magic Johnson in the 1991 Finals. However, Phil Jackson moved Jordan onto James Worthy, who I might remind you is 3 inches taller than him, and he completely shut him down. Stop trying to discredit his defense, 4 out of the 5 of those players who scored tons of points on him were athletic young players, while he was nursing knee injuries and did not have his explosive athleticism. Who did Wilt shutdown when he was in his late 30's? No one! Byron Russel, hmm, let see. One of the best defenders in the late 1990's. But nooooo, he is a cupcake and 38 year old Michael Jordan can easily defeat him. Also Game 3 of the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals: I think you forgot to mention that Jordan made 16 out of 17 free throws, had 2 steals, 2 blocks, 8 rebounds, and 11 assists. He also finished with 22 points, which is pretty good. You say he was trash that game but he was 2 rebounds away from a triple double. Also the Chicago Bulls won that game so I think that kind of discredits your argument right there.