LeBron James
'18 Moments Collection / Cavaliers Moments
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Feb 19th, 2018Height
6'8" (203cm)Weight
250lbs (113kg)Age
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Cleveland CavaliersNickname
King JamesPlays
P&R Ball Handler Guard Post Up Isolation Handoff
97 Overall
93 Outside scoring
- 91 Open shot mid
- 90 Contested shot mid
- 90 Off dribble shot mid
- 95 Open shot 3pt
- 93 Contested shot 3pt
- 94 Off dribble shot 3pt
- 98 Shot IQ
- 95 Free throw
- 98 Offensive consistency
93 Inside scoring
- 97 Shot close
- 98 Standing layup
- 98 Driving layup
- 70 Standing dunk
- 99 Driving dunk
- 95 Contact dunk
- 95 Draw foul
- 85 Post control
- 79 Post hook
- 96 Post fadeaway
- 98 Hands
96 Athleticism
- 97 Speed
- 95 Acceleration
- 98 Vertical
- 94 Strength
- 98 Stamina
- 88 Hustle
- 99 Overall durability
89 Playmaking
- 88 Speed with ball
- 86 Ball control
- 85 Passing accuracy
- 95 Passing vision
- 96 Passing IQ
92 Defending
- 95 On-ball defense IQ
- 75 Low post defense IQ
- 95 Help defense IQ
- 96 Pick & roll defense IQ
- 97 Lateral quickness
- 96 Pass perception
- 96 Reaction time
- 93 Steal
- 52 Block
- 95 Shot contest
- 95 Defensive consistency
85 Rebounding
- 75 Offensive rebound
- 89 Defensive rebound
- 85 Boxout
- 4207 Total attributesattr.
Outside Scoring
Mid-Range Deadeye
Knocks down the contested shots from medium-range at very high percentage.
Deep Range Deadeye
Knocks down contested shots from deep range at a very high percentage.
Limitless Range
Can knock down very deep threes better than most.
Difficult Shots
Known for making tough shots off the dribble.
Pick & Popper
Excels as a pick & pop receiver.
Tireless Scorer
A player who can spend a good deal of energy without losing effectiveness when attempting to score.
Catch & Shoot
Hits stand-still shots off the catch at a high percentage.Inside Scoring
Acrobat
Can attempt layups with few consequences.
Relentless Finisher
Takes physical punishment on contact shots near the rim without severely impacting his energy.
Pick & Roller
Excels as the roller in the pick & roll game.
Post Spin Technician
Dominates the post with spin and drive moves.
Drop-Stepper
Known for his ability to user the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Dream-Like Up & Under
Excels at scoring in the post with up and under moves.Playmaking
Pick & Roll Maestro
Throws accurate passes and hits shots off screens at a high percentage while orchestrating a pick & roll.
Flashy Passer
Known for throwing on-point flashy passes to his receivers.
Break Starter
Starts fast breaks with accurate outlet passes.
Lob City Passer
Completes alley-oop passes at a high rate.
Dimer
An elite passer known for hitting teammates in the correct position to score.Athleticism
Lob City Finisher
Catches and finishes alley-oops better than others.
Posterizer
Will succeed at dunking on opposing defenders more often than others.
One Man Fast Break
Excels at taking the ball coast to coast on a fast break.
Bruiser
The physical nature of this player drains energy from his match-up.Defending
Chase Down Artist
Terrific transition shot-blocker.
Defensive Stopper
While playing on-ball defense, this badge drops various offensive skills of similarly positioned match-ups.
Charge Card
Adept at placing himself in position to win charge calls.
Pick Dodger
A slithery player who can get around screens easily.
Pick Pocket
Known for his ability to strip the ball from a ball-handler.
Rim Protector
An elite shot-blocker who intimidates those around the rim, causing interior shots to be less effective.Rebounding
Hustle Rebounder
An elite rebounder known for chasing rebounds out of his area.Personality
Alpha Dog
Team leader who takes it upon himself to lead his team to victory.
Clutch Performer
Steps his game up in big games and big moments.
Championship DNA
Can quickly see where double teams are coming from. Also steps up his game in playoff moments.
Microwave
A player who heats up quicker than most.
Floor General
An offensive leader who can help his teammates play better on offense while he's on the floor
Defensive Anchor
Defensive leader who helps his teammates perform better defensively.
Hardened
Will play through fatigue and injury without experiencing a severe drop in skill.
Friendly
An outgoing and typically well-liked player.
All-Time Great
Strives to be known as an all-time great.
Legendary Work Ethic
First one to the gym, last one to leave and the hardest worker at all times.
Pat My Back
Responds best when patted on the back and coddled when spoken to.
Expressive
Has no problems expressing his feelings.Dunks
- 65 Standing dunk
- 95 Driving dunk
- 95 Flashy dunk
- 85 Alley-oop
- 50 Putback dunk
- 35 Crash
Layups
- 45 Standing layup
- 65 Driving layup
- 65 Spin layup
- 55 Hop step layup
- 25 Euro step layup
- 25 Floater
Jump shooting
- 64 Step through shot
- 70 Shot under basket
- 75 Shot close
- 1 Shot close left
- 2 Shot close middle
- 1 Shot close right
- 55 Shot mid
- 60 Spot up shot mid
- 52 Off screen shot mid
- 30 Shot 3pt
- 35 Spot up shot 3pt
- 45 Off screen shot 3pt
- 56 Contested jumper mid
- 56 Contested jumper 3pt
- 40 Stepback jumper mid
- 20 Stepback jumper 3pt
- 40 Spin jumper
- 8 Transition pull up 3pt
- 20 Drive pull up 3pt
- 40 Drive pull up mid
- 35 Use glass
Drive setup
- 75 Triple threat pump fake
- 75 Triple threat jab step
- 5 Triple threat idle
- 75 Triple threat shoot
- 25 Setup with sizeup
- 50 Setup with hesitation
- 25 No setup dribble
Driving
- 86 Drive
- 70 Spot up drive
- 82 Off screen drive
- 25 Drive right
- 35 Driving crossover
- 5 Driving spin
- 10 Driving step back
- 5 Driving half spin
- 10 Driving double crossover
- 5 Driving behind the back
- 35 Driving dribble hesitation
- 5 Driving in and out
- 10 No driving dribble move
- 85 Attack strong on drive
Freelance
- 92 Shoot
- 99 Touches
- 75 Roll vs. pop
- 25 Transition spot up
- 25 Iso vs. elite defender
- 55 Iso vs. good defender
- 78 Iso vs. average defender
- 97 Iso vs. poor defender
- 20 Play discipline
Post game
- 55 Post up
- 15 Post shimmy shot
- 10 Post face up
- 40 Post back down
- 20 Post aggressive backdown
- 75 Shoot from post
- 8 Post hook left
- 13 Post hook right
- 85 Post fade left
- 50 Post fade right
- 15 Post up and under
- 20 Post hop shot
- 55 Post step back shot
- 25 Post drive
- 15 Post spin
- 25 Post drop step
- 15 Post hop step
Passing
- 65 Dish to open man
- 60 Flashy pass
- 65 Alley oop pass
Defense
- 69 Pass interception
- 55 Take charge
- 31 On-ball steal
- 90 Contest shot
- 26 Block shot
- 31 Foul
- 55 Hard foul
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Best Player on Plant Earth, it's been that way since arguably 2008. He's arguably been the greatest player to ever play the game of basketball, with 30K points (possibly will end up with 36.5K or more) has 7.9K assists (possibly will end up with 10K or more) and 8.1K rebounds (possibly will end up with 9.5K or more). He is averaging 27.1 PPG throughout his 15-year-long career, and yet he isn't a scorer, 7.3 APG, and 7.1 RPG on 50.3% from FG in over 1000 games. He's a 14x NBA All-Star with 3 All-Star MVPs, 5x All-Defensive 1st Team selections, 3x NBA Finals MVP, 4x NBA MVP, and a 3 time NBA Champion, he's taken down some of the greatest players to ever play the game, in Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Kawhi Leonard, and Stephen Curry just to name some. He can guard any position 1-5 with his insane versatility and length and height, standing at 6'8" and 250+ pounds of pure muscle. If anyone was wondering he actually won a scoring title averaging 31.4 PPG. He's never missed a single playoff game and has never lost in the 1st round.
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best all-around player ever, well deserved KING
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yea this actually got serious down the line
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this was the best all-star game i have seen in years
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imagine if they do the draft on tv XD
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would have been incredible
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yea but at the same time i think they made a good choice by just waiting and seeing if this whole system works out.
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Actually statically it's MJ
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52 block HOF Chase Down.
Nice one 2k
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stop making this comment it's on every lebron card and it's cancerous and illogical
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@HUNtero0516 is right! His block rating should be 98! Because HoF cHaZe dOwN bLoCk -- and 99 is too high
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stop
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actually it needs to be put out there because of the opposite examples like Kevin Love's HoF break starter but horrible passing stats, don't try a deep outlet with him after a rebound....
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https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0t-BQd0-UnK4I77eXp5QKUubQNQ=/0x0:2787x1858/920x613/filters:focal(0x0:2787x1858):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/14528839/20130609_ajl_ah6_133.0.jpg
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Chase down blocks is less about blocking and more about how athletic they are. and well its Lebron no one is as athletic as him
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why tf ppl still complain about his block smh hes not a good shot blocker.....
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im not saying hes horibble but damn he never averaged more than a block per game...
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Undeniable the best player in the league right now and the greatest SF of all-time
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bird?
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hahahhaa
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bird the best white player of all-time
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@theflugame do we tag him?
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Goat
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MJ
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why mj is the goat:
he isnt
end
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Lebron=Loser MJ=Winner
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norris cole = winner stockton = loser
this how it works buddy?
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Nope. Theyre not on the same level. MJ and Lebum are. Just so happens that MJ has 6 rings on 100% while Lebum has 3 on less than 40%. Lebum is so good he loses more than half the time. Wow.
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nah you just an autistic lebron hater lmao
are you forgetting lebron faced teams that were 2x better then jordans
did u forget jordans 1-9 record without pippen
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mj had worse teammates
1-9 is hardly his fault
pippen wasn't a star immiediately
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Is Lebum the goat or not? How can you be the goat but lose practically ever time? He shouldnt be losing less than .500 in the finals. 1-9 before pippen yet MJ has doubled Lebum in rings and Lebum will never win another so what is your point? MJ 6 rings in 13 seasons 15 if you want to count Wiz. Lebum 3 in 15 and counting. 6/15 is better than 3/15.
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okay? bill won 11 rings in 13 seasons
bill da goat fam i agree
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Bill not on same level as MJ Lebron. Sorry you cant read because I said this for the norris cole comment.
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So u count MJ beating washed up Jazz and Lakers Clyde+ role players Barkley+ KJ with bums and getting carried by Rodman vs Sonics equal
to Bron beating MVP candidate in 12' top 3 PG that year and 6 MOTY
Him beating Spurs dynasty (Parker was still in prime Duncan and Ginobili did great in finals with Diaw) and beating 73 win team.
Ight
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Yes lets also count Lebums wins against young inexperienced Thunder and NBA stepping in and suspending Draymond. Oh yeah what about against the mavs???? I remember Lebum standing in the corner scared of the moment. Also remember him getting bullied by JASON TERRY of all people. Spurs dynasty lmao please 37 year old duncan manu over 35 too vs 29 year old Bosh and Lebum, 32 year old Wade. Dont forget Lebum getting bullied by a 22 year old Kawhi lmao 22 yrs! Lets also remember that Lebron has hand picked his team since he went to the heat. Teams were even. Stop making excuses for Lebum.
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Mj lost in 6 vs inexpierenced Magic got swept by Bird twice got outplayed and barely won one game vs Moncrief while having Wooldridge avg 20 ppg on 50 shot 3/18 in G3 vs Knicks and still won by 20 after being down 2-0... Wade played awful in 2014 finals man avg 14 ppg same for Bosh that 37 year old Duncan put up better stats than Bosh.
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cherry picking like always my friend, your going all over to basketball reference to see mj's worse po games when we can easily look at a single series. played well in the season he came back from, the magic had a bigman and the bulls did not. mj played great that series other than that one stl. cocaineridge, a scoring focused player who did nothing else? huh yeah right he was such a great teammate as he and dailey refused to pass to him most of the time because of their jealousy of the attention on him. rodman saved a game, but kemp "outplayed" him. and ray allen saved bron's career in 2012.
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6 rings over 3 man pretty simple. Bitch and moan all you want lebum is stuck at 3 and will move to 3 and 6 while mj sits at 6 and 0 with more mvps than lebum.
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6-0 vs inferior team than his and his teammates showing up everytime
Cool
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michael jordan was always the best bulls player in every playoff series, can't say much for LeChoke in 2011.
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LeBrons legacy is tarnished cause he wasnt best Heat player in series Mavs wanted ball out of his hands as much as its possible. And yeah he didnt perform best he was Heats 2nd best player but who cares
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i's argue bosh even played better lol
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https://youtu.be/RWUvi6M2yo4
Lebron can barely make a case for GOAT now. Too much of a loser. Please watch.
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okay im gonna use simple logic here
Player A) 30.1 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 7.7 APG
1.9 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 24.9 GameScore
47.8% FG (396/828)
36.2% 3P (67/185)
73.9% FT (193/261)
Player B) 33.6 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 6.0 APG
1.8 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 24.5 GameScore
48.1% FG (438/911)
36.8% 3P (42/114)
80.6% FT (258/320)
Who are you taking?
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Stat wise its a toss up. Theyre even by stats. Give me whoever is a winner.
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LeBron total stats: 51.7
Jorbum total stats: 48.3
Lebron better.
Next.
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Lebum 3-5
MJ 6-0
I think ill take a slight drop off in stats instead of being a loser. MJ also has more MVPs. But yea Lebron can stat pad all he wants just know hes taking his L everytime.
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i think id rather have insane stats versus much better competition and the 2 greatest teams of all time in back to back finals.
so jodran got swept in 1986 despite averaging 40 points so he stat padded
mvps?
Guess kareem the goat now lmao
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better competition = worse mavs team that he choked and draymond fondling his balls
so lebron didn't make the playoffs his first seasons i guess he stat padded. i guess being called god is stat padding too
5>4, bron is not getting one this season
nah
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Score 100 pts and lose nobody cares. Ill take 20 and a win everytime. Winning is better than losing and im sure anybody who has played sports will tell you. Apparently you like taking Ls.
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so once again you would rather take norris cole then stockton
cole a winner stockton isnt
stockton takes Ls cole doesnt
stockton can get a 100 point triple double and lose but id rather take norris cole 5 points and 2 assists bcz he won!
headass
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winning titles by itself isn't accomplishment, but there are players clearly with the impact that help get them championships. there is no comparison between horry and baylor, but "horry has more rings." hes a role player. when comparing two greats, championships are taken into account
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Have fun racking up Ls like your king lebum.
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3-5 vs 6-0
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Casual
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People love to talk about MJ’s struggles in the 1980s when he went up against the bad boy pistons and the Larry Bird Kevin McHale Celtics but what did lebron do? He made the finals with a weak supporting cast in 07 I’ll give him that. However he didn’t play any great teams in the east on his way...and when he faced a great team in the spurs he was swept. Then he struggled with the Celtics and magic until he made the finals with a stacked heat team when he lost to a good albeit less talented Mavs team. The next year I’ll give it to lebron he steam rolled a young OKC thunder team. He beat the spurs in 7 the next year in a series he could have easily lost. Then the next year the spurs came back and absolutely steam rolled him. Back in Cleveland he made the finals again and lost to an equally talented pre Durant warriors. The next year he came back to win against the equally talented warriors in a great series. However it wasn’t just lebron (even tho he was the best cav that series) he got amazing play from Kyrie and if Draymond wasn’t no suspended it can be argued that series would have had a much different ending. Then last year his team was out matched against the super talented warriors. So it’s not causal to say 3-5 vs 6-0. Sure it’s great lebron made the finals in 07 with a weak team but he went through a weak east and when he made the finals he was steamrolled. And he was beat by less talented or equally talented teams 3 out of the 5 finals losses...and without ray allen’s Clutch 3 against San Antonio or Draymond’s suspension he could very well be 1-7 in the finals (although he’s not and hypotheticals don’t really work). If you read all of this bless you lol
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The first year Lebron went up against the Warriors when he was back with the Cavs the Warriors were a far better team winning about 15 games more in the regular season, they were hardly an equally matched team. Then early in the finals, Kyrie Irving broke his knee (So he didn't have a great performance as you said he did and Kevin love got a dislocated shoulder earlier in the playoffs and wasn't able to return). Despite all this, he still forced a game 6 averaging over 35 ppg. The next year he went against the BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME and still managed to win an intense 7 game series performing the most clutch defensive play of all time to secure the championship, yes Draymond was suspended for one game but that's his fault you can't use that to say the championship wasn't as impressive and it the Cavs blew out the Warriors that game so him playing wouldn't have made the Warriors win. More important than all of this is that Lebron has never lost in the first round of the playoffs even when he was young while Jordan had a hard time making the playoffs when he was young and a harder time making it past the first round or two. I do not think that LeBron is better than Jordan however I hate the 3-5 vs 6-0 argument especially because Lebron has won more total playoff series than Jordan. Another note for why Jordans great seasons and championships weren't as impressive as people think is that the year before both Jordan's three-peats there were expansions to the NBA adding terrible teams and weakening some teams benches making it far easier for Jordans teams to excel. Sorry this was so long I just wanted to inform you of your factual errors and explain why this statistic isn't informative.
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No I said he had a great finals in 2016 when the Cavs won the series (Kyrie hit the dagger over curry and put up 27 ppg that series pretty great!). And in 2015 Lebron played great (aside from shooting low percentages) , however the warriors core of Klay and Draymond were underwhelming in the series. Mozgov oddly enough had a very productive series and so did Iggy. Now of course losing Kyrie after 1 game hurt the Cavs chances of winning but lebron still had his chances. As for Jordan struggling to make the finals in his early years it’s greatly exaggerated and used as a false equivalency to try and show that lebron is the “goat”. Jordan lost to Milwaukee in his first year round 1 and Milwaukee was a better team overall that year. His second year he missed most of the season and came back at the end just in time to see his 30-52 bulls (yeah that supporting cast did really well on his absence) draw the legendary Celtics. He balled out scoring 43.7 points with 6.3 rebounds, 5.7 assists, 2.1 steals and 1.3 blocks while shooting .872 percent from the line and .505 from the field. This trend continued the next year as again the legendary Celtics beat the bulls even with Jordan having an equally great series as the year before. In Jordan’s 4th year he finally made it out of the first round but lost to the bad boy pistons in the second round despite putting up 36.3 7.1 boards 4.7 assists and 2.3 steals all while shooting .531 from the field and .869 from the stripe. Then he lost in the east finals to the eventual champion pistons who swept the lakers..he took the pistons to 6 while playing amazing basketball and the west champs laid over and were swept..so yeah lebron made the finals in 07 but put him in the West and he gets swept by the spurs and probably doesn’t even beat the suns. So while lebron had a weaker path to the 07 finals he didn’t make another finals until he joined the loaded heat. Sorry for another super long comment but I don’t liked people saying I’m incorrect when I’m not actually wrong.
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And no im not a lebron hater I believe he’s the best player on earth and has been for some time. As far advance the greatest of all time I’m not sure! However I do enjoy watching him every chance i get cause he’s one of those players you tell your kids about haha
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Rip
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copy and paste
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So many users just haven’t been active. So they shall Rest In Peace with “rip”
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I’m not really into saying who’s the GOAT and who’s not it’s more of a personal preference. I was just pointing out that 3-5 vs 6-0 isn’t that casual
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U act like LeBron didnt put up 38.5/8/8 on 49% FG vs Magic
U call Thunder team "young" but never mention MJ faced old Magic and old Malone and Stockton. And u act like LeBrons 3-5 is awful as he wasnt underdog/had his teams perform worst than his finals opponents(other than 2011)
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Well lebron’s team was just as good as the Mavs the spurs and the warriors (the first loss). And the he beat an “old jazz team” yet Malone is a little younger than him and Stockton is the same age...
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Both Wade and Bosh unperformed hella hard in 2014
Bron choked in 2011
Bron had his 2nd and 3rd option out in 2015 while Curry raped Dellavedova in 4th Q...
U r also acting like MJ didnt have best team in each finals he played in
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ray allen saved bron's career
his teammates weren't all that great
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Paxton and Rodman saved MJs
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mj played amazing against the suns. he brought the ball up, and gave the ball to pippen, which ultimately ended up with paxson. bulls were up 3-2 before winning the game for the series
rodman got a grabbed a bunch of rbds, offensively and defensively the entire series, but that's only rbds as apparently his matchup kemp played great against him. mj also had struggles of scoring against hof payton but still played well otherwise
mia down 2-3 against the spurs. lbj shoots the 3 and misses. bosh takes the rbd, gives the ball to allen, and knocks down the 3 to send the game to ot. from there, the heat win the game and the series. lbj played underwelmingly the first 3 qtrs played well in the 4th but screwed up in the last 5 min of the qtr. greatest shot in nba history is off of lbj miss and bosh getting that rbd beyond all odds and passing it to allen
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U act like Ray shot matters if Bron doesn't score 16 in 4th but make excuses for MJs teammates bailing him out
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if bron didn't have 3 tos in the last 5 min, or struggle the first 3 qtrs, or made that 3 i wouldn't consider it a save. especially when they almost lost the series. mj once again played great against the suns the entire series and ended up passing it to someone else for the last shot, and was up 3-2. 96 g4 mj is probably the worst performance, but other than that rodman just got rebounds.
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KAJ
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I agree with Kareem, but championships dont mean that your better.
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Kinda does. Lebron makes finals and loses more than half. That has to say something. Hes gonna be 3-6 in a few months too. Lebron just isnt a goat. Simple as that. Goats are winners while Lebron is a loser. Goats like Brady and MJ are know as winners while Lebron has become a notorious loser.
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If championships are all that matter Cousy 6-1, Jordan 6-0, Bird 3-2, Duncan 5-1, Bill Russell 11-1 are the undisputed GOATs at each position.
But for most people rings only matter if they fit the narrative they want to weave... Also comparing across positions is pretty wild. Hard to objectively compare KAJ and Kobe when they play completely different positions/styles, but a Kobe/Jordan comparison is much more doable.
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Very good point. I've never understood how could the amount of rings determine who's the better player. Of course it could be a factor but then you have to include some other aspects, such as other teammates, opposing teams throughout the playoffs and so on. In my opinion, what Jordan did in the 90's was unbelievable with the teammates he had. Only other major players for his team were Pippen, who was a borderline superstar for a few years, and an old Dennis Rodman in the last 3 years. That's why Jordan is the better player in my opinion. LeBron has a huge advantage in his physicality and athleticism, yet he's struggling to win championships and don't get me started on the "lack of support". LeBron has had better teammates than Jordan his whole career, maybe except his first 2 years.
Also, I don't think we should compare guards/small forwards and bigmen. Wilt is the bigman of all time and Jordan is the best guard of all time.
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Jordan had AMAZING teams for his championship runs. Pippen was legitimately a top 6 player at the time while Jordan was the undisputed #1. Rodman was still one of the premier forwards and fit exactly what the team needed. That combined with depth at every position with guys like Kukoc, Kerr, Harper. Unless we're talking about the first 3-peat with Jordan at his athletic peak, with prime Pippen and Grant.
That said, what Lebron had in Miami trumps any of those teams in terms of star-power. I just think it's not fair to say Jordan didn't have help, seeing as those teams were well crafted.
I agree Wilt is the GOAT big man.
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Sorry but no way Pippen was a top 6 player in the league during the championship years. Maybe, just maybe he was that in the 2 years when Jordan was absent.
I can't really see how can you say Jordan had amazing teams. In the 90's, the Bulls were filled with mediocre players around Jordan and Pippen, with the exception of Rodman, Grant, B.J. Armstrong and Kukoc. They were very mediocre, but fit fantastically into the system and that was the key for Bulls' success.
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You bring up his record but be 100% honest, he was only supposed to win maybe half of them. He was almost always the underdog and the only series you can even hold against him is the mavs. Other than that he literally beat a 73 win team, beat the spurs and averaged an insane amount and won 2 games when both love and kyrie were out. You can’t say him losing makes him worse off then any of those players because Lebron was legitimately not favored to win in over half his championship games. Lebron does more with less than anyone ever in the NBA
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Nice excuses. Never heard any excuse from MJ or Kobe. One reason why Lebron wont be a goat. I can make excuses for 2 of Lebrons rings since you want to make excuses. Draymond bs suspension and Ray Allen saving LBJ lmao.
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Lol what, MJ couldn’t win a playoff game without pippen, not taking away from his greatness but he needed the help, Lebron literally would take the Cavs to the playoffs every year with barely anyone and took them to the finals lol, Kobe had Shaq then didn’t win again until he had Pau, again not to take from their greatness but they needed help. Jordan never had to face a better team then the team he was on ever, when he did he didn’t even make it to the finals they lost beforehand. Like you honestly can’t say you thought the cavs would beat the warriors any of the times they played, it’s not his fault they were just outmanned at every position, his stats prove that he still is the best player on the court but his team folds around him
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Since when was making the playoffs the goal?
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lol there is no arguing with you, everyone has an opinion i guess lol, name me the series lebron should've won then that jordan wouldve led them to win? Your only argument can be the mavs otherwise you cant.
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So lebron makes excuses before the games are even played? MJ never thought he couldnt beat the other team. Thats why hes 6 and 0. Lebron looks to stat pad and happily take another finals L. Maybe this is the year you bronsexuals start putting some of the blame on him.
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You literally have no clue what you’re talking about, first off When did Lebron make any of these excuses? I’m not Lebron so what I’m saying doesn’t mean Lebron said it but thanks for thinking that! And as far as “stat padding” Jordan was accused by multiple people as being one of the biggest stat padders in history, get your information straight lol.
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Jordan never lost in the finals. Lebron stat pads in the finals so people cant blame him. We've all seen it. You know this is the way Lebron thinks. He doesnt have the closer mentality. He'll never be the goat. Im not sure why youre hanging on LBJs nuts and defending him for being a loser.
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How in the world is Lebron not a closer? Look at his crunch time percentages and stats, he shoots better than Kobe in those situations. Jordan never lost in the finals you’re right m, he’d just lose before when his team was the underdog, like Lebron who would at least make it to the finals lol. You’re so close minded you can’t even acknowledge Lebron is the better total basketball player lol. I actually like Jordan more I’m just realistic, unlike you who in your words “are hanging on MJs nuts” to a point you don’t even realize Lebron is the better basketball player overall
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LMAO. 3-5. Keep thinking Lebum is the goat. Lebum wont even get a 4th ring. How pathetic. Regardless of finals record MJ is the winner because Lebum cant get past 3. So how does your underdog argument make any fuckin sense? Oh boy Lebron finished 2nd more than MJ. What a loser! 1st place is what matters. Youre such an idiot you dont even know how to count MJ has even more MVPs and Lebum wont catch up because he wont win a not even single one more. Nice "goat" you got there. MJ has a DPOY while Lebum has his pathetic defense from this year lmao. Youre probably the same person who will crucify KD for going to a super team while Lebum made that type of bitch move possible. MJ is goat. Sorry BRONSEXUAL. Lebum loses again.
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it's hard for lebron to get a 4th ring when the league is terribly unbalanced. lebron's not a stat-padder; he just a point forward that likes to move the ball and score when the opportunity presents itself. mj's finals competition was also statistically proven to be worse than lebron's by a long shot. finals record is a terrible way to compare two players. lebron consistently drops 26-8-8 each year, but isn't going to be voted mvp with players like harden and westbrook trying to light up the stat sheet every night. lebron has also always been a reliable defender (although his defense is arguably falling off this year) but never wins DPOY because there are players that specialize in defense. it's not like mj was a fantastic defender his whole career, so the whole statement about lebron's defense getting worse is irrelevant. you have to realize that there is simply better players in today's nba than there were in mj's time, and then there's the stat-padders that end up getting better stats than lebron each year
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There’s just not arguing with you, you literally don’t know anything about basketball. How is Lebron not the better player? I’m not talking winner I’m talking player? Assist wise, rebound wise, scoring wise and defensive wise, Lebron has him beat or tied in every category, Lebron just doesn’t score as much but has higher percentages and is more efficient.... what is your basis for saying MJ is a better statistical basketball player? You don’t even give facts you count rings and say he’s better lol I have yet to hear an actual argument come from you. It’s sad you name call and says rings matter when I’m talking about an actual all around basketball player. Lebron has played 15 years of course he’s slowing down on defense... he’s still one of the best in the league at defense
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5-2 over 3-5 LMAOOOOOOOOO Lebum is such a loser
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07- LeBron was only 22 and that team had no business in the finals
11- LeBron choked no way around it
14- Played against one of the best coach Pop teams and Wade and Bosh played like shit
15- LeBron went off and took the Warriors to 6 with Kyrie and Love hurt and would've won if the second best player statistically on his team that series wasn't fucking Timofey Mozgov
17- He played the best team ever and averaged a triple double, not his fault KD ruined the NBA
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Silver also thinks we can expand when a bunch of teams are having attendance issues
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Lebron is original snake
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did the heat beat him?
if he was a snake he would join the celtics
dumb fuk
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thats not how it works
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so leaving a shitty team with no future to win a ring = being a snake
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What people don't understand about being a snake is that its about how you leave. Doesnt matter if you lost to them, doesnt matter if your team sucked, doesnt always matter if you went to a better team, it matters how you leave. The way lebron left was a snake move because that shit was televised like its some fucking presidential announcement
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Yeah the team you were on previously matters
And didn't it donate like millions to charity or sum lmfao
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Snake Lebum betrayed the cavs and started this BS super team league with only 2-4 good teams
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he's not a snake for leaving it made sense
but it was shady to make a superteam
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well when you hate your gm and your gm can't build shit around you wouldn't you leave to
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Knew this card was coming after that epic 4th quarter! Best all star game in a few years!
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3rd all star game mvp. Greatest all star ever?
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Your an idiot, Lebron is the 2nd greatest player ever, and the best currently. I was saying this all-star game was the best we have had in a while
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you said "nah maybe the best of the 2010s" no where in there were you even talking about the all star game and the previous comments were talking about lebron not the game
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Kind of sick of all the Jordan vs LeBron comparisons.... it's stupid to compare two different players from two different eras. Too many things are different! Instead why don't you people just be happy to be alive to witness atleast one very good players career! To this day i'm pissed i was too young to see all of Jordan's career but i'm damn sure happy i'm alive to witness LeBron cause in 20-30 years another player will appear that gets compared to Jordan AND LeBron and i will be able to say i witnessed one of those guys career. Just stop and enjoy what's happening, don't let it pass you by.
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boi nobody want to hear no lecture unless u r a philosopher.
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Did anyone of you guys get messages from @H4k33mD4Dr34m0l4juw0n to like his comments? Just asking.
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did anyone else think they would release signature cards from every year he won all star game mvp
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why is he a 97 we have a 97 harden he should be a 98 or a 99 he is the king mitchell should not the be same rating lebron is a top 3 nba player all time
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Bronsexual comments incoming..
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I see no comments on the topic of "bronsexual." Whether you were wrong, or you wrote a " _____ ______ incoming," comment for likes, and if that is true you only got two likes. Good day.
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Sir, I’m actually speaking my own thoughts and opinions, not for “Likes” or
I was “Wrong”. Good day to you too.
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By the end of his career, Lebron will be the greatest player to ever play.
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why does this have downvotes
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Because people hate on Lebron even though he's one of the best players ever currently
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YOU SO FUCKIN PRECIOUS WHEN U SMILE
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When then gonna fix his hot zones, his "spot" is top right and hes got hot on the top left but not top right
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If he had 99 intangibles, he will be 99 overall.
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I love how diamond Lebron has a lower block than emerald Jordan like ik Jordan is the goat and has some pretty decent blocks but Lebron massacres guys and 2k still can’t give him a block higher than 60 smh
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this dude had some bad passes and alot of turnovers in that game the passing is too hogh
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this card is cheese. you dont need a diamond three point shoe anymore, so if you see a man running this card at the 1, gg.
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2k gonna give him hof chase down artist and gold rim protector but only give him a 52 block smh
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Good starting Sf?
http://2kmtcentral.com/18/lineups/208567/toxictiger777s-lineup
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fucking bum DUMB BLACK NIGGER, I DONT WANT THAT BBC I NEED KOBE's BBC IN MY MOUTH
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Carried the team past PGs 3-point bricks
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he didn't carry he had KD and Kyrie helping him very much
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These jerseys were trash, it looks like a coloring book
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Comparisons are not relevant to Jordan. Just stop. If you want to compare, compare the shoes. Save yourself the trouble.
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How does he only have 52 block if he has HOF chase down artist ???
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The face when a dunk contest winner is the same overall as the All star game M.V.P
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How tf he have a 95 free throw, the three is reasonable, BUT 95 FREE THROWSJDFKSHFJKHGYASGD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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It's just amazing to see that people say Lebron will join the Warriors but with him with his best year in his prime and without Kyrie Irving, I actually impressed.
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Okay so are we going to act like he has a 54 block? Just ask Tiago. Or the more famous one.... Iggy just saying
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This comment is on every Lebron card, yet it fails to be funny. Not amusing at the least.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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Show 16 replies...those are @Mamba_ 's words
like bro cmon give him credit
how does it have so many upvotes when literally Mamba said the same thing and he didn't get anywhere near....
bc this is lebrons card and everyone on the site practically has seen this card and saw the top comment and thought, "hey, h4k33mD4Dr34m0l4juw0n is a genius because not everyone is looking at mamba_'s lineup...pretty much more people saw this and didn't know they were being tricked by a monster
and hakeem begs for upvotes in dms as well, and newer users will probably do it
[Deleted] lol that little bastard
He didn't delete it, tupac did. Tupac also banned him
i didn't even check lmao do you know how long the ban is for?
no, nobody but tupac, the mods, and h4k33m know
Hope he got hit with the Permaban. Hes a P.O.S.
its funny this is lebron because for me, at the top, there is an ad for chef curry
How come they don’t have the prices up this year for any of the cards ??
because they knew 2k would make 10 thousand pink diamonds
What did he say?
when was he banned
he was banned some months back. they let him off the hook and he came back but got banned again same day he made that post
Give some credit @Mamba_
http://2kmtcentral.com/18/lineups/260205/lebron
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Show 10 replies...really tho
Can someone tell me what the comment was before it was deleted?
Go to the lineup up there and Mambas 2 comments about lebron stats. Hakeem copy pasted those 2 comments
Dang what a bum lol
What was the comment?
H4k33mD4Dr34m0l4juw0n copied @Mamba 's comment
passed Dr. J by 1 stat
I think lebron should of got a 99
I mean i dont like lebron alot but his peformace was just crazy and whenever that happens I just think the person should get a high rated card.
best player now or ever
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Show 6 replies...think about a 1 v 1 lebron vs. MJ as if they were the same age
Basketball is not a 1v1 game, it's 5 on 5 and LeBron impacts the game in another level.
i also want an answer of who would win
Probably Jordan because he had a batter iso game than lebron but it wouldn't be easy.
i mean if it was just a practice game or offseason
when you steal @Mamba_ 's comment and still get more likes than I will ever have...only H4k33mD4Dr34m0l4juw0n can
Preach my brother .... #legoat
Does anyone even realize that they made him a 97, just so they could make a better card! holy crap! goat!
The argument that Lebron can guard any position is a joke if he was such a great defender why doesnt he guard KD the stats dont lie this year Lebron has been one of the worst defenders in the NBA this year being ranked the 13th worst defender in the nba for players of 15 minutes and is sitting on a 0.0 defensive win shares he is also leading the entire league in opponent points in the paint behind James Harden and Devin Booker who are notorious bad defenders. I would like to see Lebron Guard Boogie Cousins or Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Irving and Steph but he wont because he is an overated defender
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Show 2 replies...This year he has been a very bad defender for the first year in his career. Every other year he has been one of the best defenders in the league being on the first team all defense many times. The reason for this is that in every other recent year occasionally he takes a game off to rest, but this year he hasn't taken off a single one. This is especially impressive since he is a 34-year-old and is taking more responsibility for his team than in many years without the consistent support of another star player. (I say consistent because both Kevin Love and Isaiah Thomas have had serious injury problems this season.) He is forced to create near all the offense for the Cavs and therefore needs to rest some on defense.
im not saying that he has always been a bad defender im just saying he is overatted
aye bitch don't be stealing my fucking comments again you hoe, next time don't do that shit you bum
DIe feggegt you are stealere
So will his 99 PD be on the heat or cavs
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H4k33mD4Dr34m0l4juw0n lives again
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Show 2 replies...its true now since his account is back up
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Tim DUncan is olde boiii
Wow so much work to get top comment too much for me tbh
Only negative/something he robbed the fans of; was NEVER participating in the Dunk Contest. Especially after back to back years of teasing he would.
Look at the ups he still has in his 15th freaking season, its a freakin crime he never gave us that show
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deserves a 99 2k on some BULLSHITTT
do u say this for every lebron card in every 2k
Smartest man on earth.
I guess
Amen
Earths a fucking plant?
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Show 1 reply...Bro ask @Damian
@Damian lmaoooo
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Show 2 replies...I really don't understand why you did this in the first place
I’m sry dude
hi fam! can u pls upvote this comment for me? 2kmtcentral.com/18/players/9087/lebron-james#comment-1132684 (just click the arrow pointing upwards next to the comment once)
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nic essay
You really had to steal that from me smh
Shut up you bum Kwame Brown is a better three point shooter than you can make layups h4k33m
he's back
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Show 3 replies...who's back
h4keem, he was banned
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wat u say
look at the intangibles
seriously this would have been a 99
I'm sad because this comment had the potential for one of the highest upvotes comments of all-time
the comment was out about 20 hours and had 119 upvotes already
But then it was deleted RIP
Bruh u relize back the Russell wasn’t good right
Chris Smoove made some good points in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GAZsowjUo
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Show 2 replies...L. Chris Smoove has the least basketball knowledge.
He literally was talking about how the word G.O.A.T is overused. LeBron is called the G.O.A.T but was struggling post-playoffs and isn't first seed in the east. MJ was so great he can be compared to LeBron sure but. MJ and Scottie Pippen were playing the Utah Jazz alone against Karl Malone, Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton. They still had a 3peat. Did you even watch the video, he was talking about how LeBron hasn't been acting like a G.O.A.T compared to Jordan. LeBron had more shortcomings in his career than Jordan. Chris Smoove is talking about how people are taking shortcuts comparing LeBron to Jordan for G.O.A.T behavior. There are literally things that stats don't show and I find it pretty dumb you just excluded all what he was talking about in the video and just be like. "L. Chris Smoove has the least basketball knowledge."
IMO, he already surpassed Micheal Jordan for that G.O.A.T status.
Anyone else get a message from this guy asking to upvote this comment?
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Show 3 replies...Hakeem prolly asked people to downvote his and soon mine
yep
everyone will just deal with it lol
LEBRON IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER ON PLANET EARTH. BTW YOU SPELT PLANET WRONG.
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Show 6 replies...If not LeBron then who?
Pervis Ellison
im sleep
KOBE, MJ
You are very right
Thanks
He's great, but will never be at the level of MJ, Bill Russel, Wilt Chamberlain, or Kareem
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Show 7 replies...You're right, cuz he's already past that level, save for MJ (I think they're on the same level)
Think he's passed Bill Russel? Let me know when LeBron has 12 rings and maybe we'll consider the facts
Well, where are MJ's 11 or 12 rings?
Where's LeBron's other 3 rings he even needs to tie MJ???
This is a good argument, unlike the previous one.
Like I've said before, I have mad respect for Lebron. He is one of the greatest to play the game, but he's not quite the greatest
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankalltime/greatest-players-ever
go and see what level he's on
Hint: he hasn't passed kareem or MJ