LeBron James
Signature Series Collection / Cavaliers Signature Series
General information
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Signature SeriesAdded
May 31st, 2018Height
6'8" (203cm)Weight
250lbs (113kg)Age
38Team
Cleveland CavaliersNickname
King JamesDynamic Duo
97 Kyrie IrvingPlays
P&R Ball Handler Guard Post Up Isolation Handoff
99 Overall
96 Outside scoring +1
- 97 Open shot mid
- 97 Contested shot mid
- 97 Off dribble shot mid
- 95 Open shot 3pt +4
- 93 Contested shot 3pt +3
- 94 Off dribble shot 3pt
- 98 Shot IQ
- 95 Free throw
- 99 Offensive consistency
97 Inside scoring
- 99 Shot close
- 99 Standing layup
- 99 Driving layup
- 90 Standing dunk
- 99 Driving dunk
- 98 Contact dunk
- 99 Draw foul
- 94 Post control
- 89 Post hook
- 96 Post fadeaway
- 98 Hands
97 Athleticism
- 98 Speed
- 96 Acceleration
- 98 Vertical
- 96 Strength
- 98 Stamina
- 98 Hustle
- 99 Overall durability
91 Playmaking +1
- 93 Speed with ball
- 88 Ball control +5
- 85 Passing accuracy
- 98 Passing vision
- 98 Passing IQ
97 Defending
- 98 On-ball defense IQ
- 90 Low post defense IQ
- 98 Help defense IQ
- 98 Pick & roll defense IQ
- 99 Lateral quickness
- 98 Pass perception
- 98 Reaction time
- 98 Steal
- 90 Block
- 98 Shot contest
- 98 Defensive consistency
90 Rebounding
- 88 Offensive rebound
- 91 Defensive rebound
- 90 Boxout
- 4402 Total attributesattr. +12
Outside Scoring
Deep Range Deadeye
Knocks down contested shots from deep range at a very high percentage.
Limitless Range
Can knock down very deep threes better than most.
Difficult Shots
Known for making tough shots off the dribble.
Tireless Scorer
A player who can spend a good deal of energy without losing effectiveness when attempting to score.
Corner Specialist
Known for his ability to knock down threes from the corner.
Pick & Popper
Excels as a pick & pop receiver.
Catch & Shoot
Hits stand-still shots off the catch at a high percentage.Inside Scoring
Acrobat
Can attempt layups with few consequences.
Relentless Finisher
Takes physical punishment on contact shots near the rim without severely impacting his energy.
Tear Dropper
Excels at making floaters and runners
Putback King
Known for his ability to score baskets immediately off of offensive rebounds near the hoop.
Pick & Roller
Excels as the roller in the pick & roll game.
Post Spin Technician
Dominates the post with spin and drive moves.
Drop-Stepper
Known for his ability to user the drop step move to his advantage in the post.
Dream-Like Up & Under
Excels at scoring in the post with up and under moves.Playmaking
Flashy Passer
Known for throwing on-point flashy passes to his receivers.
Break Starter
Starts fast breaks with accurate outlet passes.
Pick & Roll Maestro
Throws accurate passes and hits shots off screens at a high percentage while orchestrating a pick & roll.
Lob City Passer
Completes alley-oop passes at a high rate.
Dimer
An elite passer known for hitting teammates in the correct position to score.
Ankle Breaker
Can cause his defender to stumble or fall with his dribble moves.Athleticism
Lob City Finisher
Catches and finishes alley-oops better than others.
Posterizer
Will succeed at dunking on opposing defenders more often than others.
One Man Fast Break
Excels at taking the ball coast to coast on a fast break.
Bruiser
The physical nature of this player drains energy from his match-up.
Brick Wall
Sets extremely effective screens and drains energy from opponents on pick collisions.Defending
Defensive Stopper
While playing on-ball defense, this badge drops various offensive skills of similarly positioned match-ups.
Pick Pocket
Known for his ability to strip the ball from a ball-handler.
Chase Down Artist
Terrific transition shot-blocker.
Charge Card
Adept at placing himself in position to win charge calls.
Pick Dodger
A slithery player who can get around screens easily.
Rim Protector
An elite shot-blocker who intimidates those around the rim, causing interior shots to be less effective.Rebounding
Hustle Rebounder
An elite rebounder known for chasing rebounds out of his area.Personality
Alpha Dog
Team leader who takes it upon himself to lead his team to victory.
Clutch Performer
Steps his game up in big games and big moments.
Spark Plug
Comes off the bench or comes out of timeouts making big plays that can energize his teammates.
Championship DNA
Can quickly see where double teams are coming from. Also steps up his game in playoff moments.
Microwave
A player who heats up quicker than most.
Floor General
An offensive leader who can help his teammates play better on offense while he's on the floor
Defensive Anchor
Defensive leader who helps his teammates perform better defensively.
Hardened
Will play through fatigue and injury without experiencing a severe drop in skill.
Friendly
An outgoing and typically well-liked player.
All-Time Great
Strives to be known as an all-time great.
Legendary Work Ethic
First one to the gym, last one to leave and the hardest worker at all times.
Pat My Back
Responds best when patted on the back and coddled when spoken to.
Expressive
Has no problems expressing his feelings.Dunks
- 65 Standing dunk
- 100 Driving dunk
- 100 Flashy dunk
- 85 Alley-oop
- 50 Putback dunk
- 35 Crash
Layups
- 45 Standing layup
- 65 Driving layup
- 65 Spin layup
- 55 Hop step layup
- 25 Euro step layup
- 25 Floater
Jump shooting
- 64 Step through shot
- 70 Shot under basket
- 75 Shot close
- 1 Shot close left
- 2 Shot close middle
- 1 Shot close right
- 55 Shot mid
- 60 Spot up shot mid
- 52 Off screen shot mid
- 30 Shot 3pt
- 35 Spot up shot 3pt
- 45 Off screen shot 3pt
- 56 Contested jumper mid
- 56 Contested jumper 3pt
- 40 Stepback jumper mid
- 20 Stepback jumper 3pt
- 40 Spin jumper
- 8 Transition pull up 3pt
- 20 Drive pull up 3pt
- 40 Drive pull up mid
- 35 Use glass
Drive setup
- 75 Triple threat pump fake
- 75 Triple threat jab step
- 5 Triple threat idle
- 75 Triple threat shoot
- 25 Setup with sizeup
- 50 Setup with hesitation
- 25 No setup dribble
Driving
- 86 Drive
- 70 Spot up drive
- 82 Off screen drive
- 25 Drive right
- 35 Driving crossover
- 5 Driving spin
- 10 Driving step back
- 5 Driving half spin
- 10 Driving double crossover
- 5 Driving behind the back
- 35 Driving dribble hesitation
- 5 Driving in and out
- 10 No driving dribble move
- 85 Attack strong on drive
Freelance
- 92 Shoot
- 99 Touches
- 75 Roll vs. pop
- 25 Transition spot up
- 25 Iso vs. elite defender
- 55 Iso vs. good defender
- 78 Iso vs. average defender
- 97 Iso vs. poor defender
- 20 Play discipline
Post game
- 55 Post up
- 15 Post shimmy shot
- 10 Post face up
- 40 Post back down
- 20 Post aggressive backdown
- 75 Shoot from post
- 8 Post hook left
- 13 Post hook right
- 85 Post fade left
- 50 Post fade right
- 15 Post up and under
- 20 Post hop shot
- 55 Post step back shot
- 25 Post drive
- 15 Post spin
- 25 Post drop step
- 15 Post hop step
Passing
- 65 Dish to open man
- 60 Flashy pass
- 65 Alley oop pass
Defense
- 69 Pass interception
- 55 Take charge
- 31 On-ball steal
- 90 Contest shot
- 26 Block shot
- 31 Foul
- 55 Hard foul
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im sorry, but if lebron beats the warriors in the finals this year with the team he has rn, he will officially be known as the greatest to ever play it and will also earn his greatest accomplishement
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win or lose in the NBA finals appreciate what this man has done for the last 15 years
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I wouldn't appreciate what he has done if I was a Raptors fan.
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well you shout considering he has swept you guys in twice in the last three years
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Why should anyone appreciate losing? You’re an imbecile
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knicks been losing since the 80s and im not mad that lebron beat us almost everytime we played in the past
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choke in 2011?
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every superstar has their shutdowns
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expect MJ. ;)
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lmao you and your trolls
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brah jordans team was better then lebrons easily when jordan left for baseball they only lost 2 games lower then what they had with jordan when lebron left clevand the cavs didnt make play offs hell they were one of the worst teams of all time and they only lost one player look it up its fact and jordan choked in the playoffs alot against the detroit bad boys get off jordans dick hes not as good as everyone says he is he just had a better team thats dont even try to reply ill shut ur ass down everytime like lebron did to iguodala oh and one more thing lebron went to the finals without kyrie hes a carrier maybe if you get ur head out of ur ass you would acctually aprecciate greatness
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you do realize im on LeBron's side...
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lol wdf i hit reply on the other guy
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yea lmao
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do u got a psn?
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How come he is not warring a backpack with the rest of the cavs team in it?
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over 4400 attributes.Best card in history of myteam.The King is here to claim his throne again
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CashNasty rushing back to myteam right now
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Nobody plays this trashass game anymore it died out on the first month
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LOL 95 Free throw when he shot .731 this season. Steve Nash shot over 90% from the free throw and his 98 Diamond card has a 90 free throw rating... If stats matter this little why don't they add fictional characters into the game?
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Jordan is at his house sweating and hoping that he doesn't beat the warriors because even he knows that if he does, he will unanimously be recognized as the goat
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MJs untouchable. Only kids who didnt watch him can argue against it.
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Well I mean MJ said that Lebron is better than him so
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MJ said Kobe was better than Lebron
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for only one thing rings
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reply to me so i get the notification so i can roast ur ass if were talking rings robert horry is better then jordan is that really ur argument jordan had worse teams because people didnt kd and switch teams often most players back then were loyal not like now
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you ain't roasting anything with yo idiot self LeBron carried an entire team to the finals and overcame a 3-1 lead against a team that broke NBA records and we all know MJ didn't do anything on the wizards the team with no superstars went 37-45 so shut up idiot you don't know anything about basketball.
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um u are aware you just said was lebron was better right dumb ass you were saying jordans better now ur saying lebrons better if im and idiot it looks like this idiot has gotten to u ur welcome
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how does 37-45 sound like I am trying to make him sound better than lebron I dare you to answer dumbass
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lol i watched lebron and jordan brah its not even close compare the stats and the teams they played for
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compare the stats, jordan was a better defender and scorer
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oh really lol lebron beats jordan in blocks and rebounds defesifly the only thing jordan has over lebron right not is steals and thats gonna change beacuse bron only needs like 300 to surpass jodan and offensive lets see offensive rebounds go to lebron play off points go to lebron and lebron will pass jordan in regular season points next season whats the argument ur making
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bro... this comment shows how much of basketball and eras you don't know. MJ was a way better defender due to the era he played in. and way better scorer due to the rules implemented back then as well. Look at the Pistons, Knicks defenses.
Then scoring wise, Jordan was way better at 6'6, with HANDchecking and he was averaging 35 plus. he even averaged 40 at one point without depending on the 3 as much James does.
Even Kobe was a better defender than James. James hardly guarded or guards the best player on the other team. We all remember what happened when he was on KD last year... he got owned. Kobe has 9 all first defensive teams, MJ won DPOY. Lebron never did.
You wanna talk more about stats, LBJ or even Westbook statpadding, that is happening due to the fact that the game has changed so much. so more threes and more bigs who can step outside and shot the three so more room for guards and wings to get boards.
That is why you can't compare players from eras, there is a reason why they say that cuz rules change, defenses change, attacking styles change ... it's impossible to compare stat for stat because of all these things.
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alright in ur first sentance u already disregared uself jordan was a dirty defender u could hand check which jordan did u couldnt handcheck jordan hes faster then lebron ill give u that he will just blow right by the defenders. imagine a 6 foot 8 230 pound beast whos getting better as he gets older being able to handcheck its a softer game which involves alot of shooting remmember what jordan cant do he cant shoot nick young the meme did better in a three point contest then jordan also if u say u cant compare why on earth would u argue whos better on lebrons card lol ur salft asf
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U said whoever says lebron is better than mj didnt watched mj .... and U talking about stats right noe like wtf ?!
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its taking you a long time to reply theres no question on goat status if u even say anything i will shut ur ass down dont even try
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i stopped giving a fuck cuz its not even worth arguing. MJ is clearly better.
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you said compare the stats ok compare the stats and the teams they have to play the jazzs to all stars in the finals to warriors 4 or 5 if your acctually including zazas induction
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Bro Lebron wouldn't even make it to the finals back then. The East is a joke. Lebrons biggest challenge this yr was a Celtics squad missing their 2 best guys
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Well that's what's gonna happen. But Jordan will still be recognized as the better/more skilled player, and definitely the greater play. LeBron isn't known for winning he's known for averaging 20-9-9.
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It's not like it's a fact, it isn't. Lmao not everybody thinks Jordan is the GOAT, not everybody thinks LeBron is the GOAT. Some people couldn't care less, and a lot of people think someone other than these two are the GOAT. I think Wilt, Bog thinks Bron, FluGame thinks Jordan, Klay thinks Wilt, pretty sure there's a couple on this site that think Kobe, some think Bill. There are many different opinions. Now you can argue about it all day but the fact of the matter is different people have different reasons for their guy being the GOAT. LeBron fans think mostly about being an all-around player, his stats. Jordan fans think winning, and what they bring to the team. Wilt fans usually think the stats, skill. Kobe fans think just skill mostly. Bill Russell fans, they think winning.
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Stfu. Curry is the goat
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Got no idea why anyone would think Curry is GOAT tho lmao, maybe autistic 8 year olds.
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He lead his team to 4 straight title games. So stfu
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With 3 all stars on his team, and then the best bench in the league, and then on top of that he's got a great coach and trainers.
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U saying ty lue is a bad coach? Plus your a fucking hypocrite because u said everyone has their own opinion on who is the goat. Why can't I have mine.
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You told me to "stfu" so why don't you take your own advice, you autistic motherfucker. And yes Ty Lue is a terrible coach.
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Fuck off. Everyone on this website downvotes your life
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Yeah that's great, couldn't care less about how many downvotes I have, if I did I'd be talking about how LeBron is the GOAT and other times I'd say Jordan is the GOAT. If I cared I'd be sucking up to the people saying that shit to get upvotes, and that's easy. It wasn't a popular thing to call LeBron the GOAT last year but it's trendy now so people say it, but they weren't saying it last year, last year they had Jordan at 1, and the year before that and the year before that too. Bogotac thought that last year too, that Jordan was the GOAT. I got downvoted for saying Jordan wasn't the GOAT. People had LeBron at like 3 last year, I was getting downvoted for saying Kobe wasn't top 5. I think otherwise now but that's what it was like last year.
People just want change, but it isn't gonna revive the site, it's gonna be the same as it was in February, completely dead.
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They gave Lebron more cards than MJ to make up for the championships
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But MJ is 6 for 6 in the Finals, never saw Game 7
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jordan also had to play the jazz in finals who was a 2 man team with stockton and malone lebron he to play against 4 all stars in the finals and the celtics and raptors in the eastern confrence when jordan had the knicks which is my team but they only had ewing and pheniox which only had barkely theres no arguement dude lebrons the goat and i dont even like lebron
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Name the last time Jordan was swept in a Finals series, also, he never was down 0-3, and don't forget the Supersonics were good too. Jordan never had a melt down like LeBron in 2011.
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Lol he just joined a new team even kd and the warriors couldn't sweep the Cavs because they weren't there yet and after that LeBron had awsome matchups with the Spurs when they traded back and forth making it unpredictable to know who's gonna win Jordan also had a shit load of talent to help out it's LeBron vs everyone else out here Cavs who?
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Maybe the fact that everybody is telling you you're wrong should clue you in to the fact that:
You're wrong.
LeBron has had wayyy more talent with him. Here's proof:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgzpmBgXcAYaEjA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgzpmBBWsAAMqdF.jpg
As I keep saying, do your research instead of saying nonsense.
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Or two u buy a PS4 n nba 2k since that's were commenting on 2k cards u use Jordan I'll use LeBron I'll sweep u and I'm only commenting on people who think Jordan is the goat because he is not Oscar was great Kareem was great it's hard to tell it's a team game there's 5 people per team on the court not a one v one game I'll even beat u with a custom made 55 overall lavar ball u need to do ur reserch by watching old games and see his fouls he does on defense and are never called LeBron is not tom Brady he will get called for a foul something Jordan rarely got called for ur doing all this reserch instead of watching and inspecting games lol
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wait hol up.
How does a 2K game prove that a player is better lmao.
"Jordan rarely got called for fouls."
I'm done bruh lmao
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lmao you just gonna forget the celtics and pistons huh? lebron has no comp in the east and didn't play a good team this playoffs. mj had the knicks, yes, but also celtics and pistons with 4 hof each
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pistons died out in like 1991 and larry bird was old asf in the 90s with the death of len bias the celtics faded away and you want to talk about celtics if they were all heathy it would of been kyrie tatem and horford im going when jordan won his first ring and beyond not when he was just a rookie unless if you want to count when they were rookies because lebron still went to play offs with a trash team were was jordan lol
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"If they were all healthy"
But they fucking weren't all healthy, so they weren't nearly as strong of a team. Yes the Pistons and Celtics eventually succumbed, but Jordan overall faced more comp in his conference: this graph very clearly shows it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DetlD51XUAASzru.jpg
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Ur Link don't work first of all second of all it's about to be the start of a new season let's say LeBron goes west what's ur excuse then oh he joined other all stars man Jordan got other all stars to join his team why would u join LeBron if u can join the 73 and 9 warriors who had a better record then the 4 all star bulls also alot of players go to West because there scared of LeBron
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The link does work. I just tried it. Copy and paste into your search bar.
The Bulls never had 4 All-Stars. When they went 72-10 they only had 2 All Star selections that year- Jordan and Pippen. Once again, do your research before spewing nonsense that can easily be proved incorrect.
Jordan did not "get other All Stars to join his team." The front office drafted Pippen, something Jordan had no part of. Dennis Rodman did not make a single All Star team while with the Bulls. Yet again, do your research before posting.
"Players go West because they're scared of LeBron." Do you have any proof? No, you're just speculating without basis.
If LeBron goes to L.A., its because he can't handle not being on a team with 2-3 All-Stars as he's proved throughout his career by leaving for other teams when his current team declines.
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MJ is the Goat, because he didn't need other All-Stars to win a Championship, Rodman was an allstar at one point, Gary Payton even said " We had better ball players back in our day." I watched the debates. LeBron said himself both him and MJ would need to be taken to the hospital if they played. As far as research, when I read on MJ he had the haert to be an assassin when he played. Do give credit to Pip and Rodman. Plus MJ played in a more physical era of basketball before certain fouls came about. Bird said MJ was basically Jesus when he played him,but there's only one Jesus.
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There's a Jesus and a god LeBron is that good also Jordan needed pippen to win a championship pippen has 6 rings lol same as Jordan during Jordans era u could trash talk harsh and hand check and fouls not called that's very true but Jordan was a very bad handchecker which helped on defense and could also iso and drive which now days might be called a charge if there's a player in the paint
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I can agree, let's think on this though, each Star Player in the era before and after Jordan can't win a Championship on their own, LeBron had Wade and Bosh, MJ had Pip and Rodman, so, basically we can settle on that their both great players, to the world, Jordan is the best or LeBron is, because they want to make money off the debates about it.
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ofc more publicity to them in a one on one game though aint nobody on this planet beating kobe bryant and thats a fact the guy has his moves and all of jordans moves lol and also warriors are way to overpowered 5 all stars 1 team whats going on
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Let's remember that Kobe copied Jordan, had to model after a great
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i stated that he had all of jordan moves and his own moves also look at clevlend now with lebron they went to the finals without havent won a game kevin love put the team on his back couldnt get a win and got hurt and now there best player is jr shit just give up dude theres no question on the goat status jordan was known for scoring aswell and lebron is already catching him in that category and hes beating him in rebounds, assists the list goes on the only thing jordan still has on him then points is steals and that will most likely be over taken aswell also look at this
https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+vs+lebron+career+stats&rlz=1C1JPGB_enUS817US817&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZrLScx7PeAhUEmuAKHSYGDQUQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=V52GFc0jHmADyM:
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I think it's funny that people go out of their way to talk about how great someone is, when clearly Jesus Christ is the greatest who made Jordan in his own image along with LeBron, God is the reason these men even had greatness and be in the league, enough said
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Jordan actually did have part of drafting pippen Jordan told the front desk who he wanted that's true rodman didn't make an all star team when he played with Jordan because he GOT SCREWED rodman is a very underated defensive player even though he has 5dpoys and LeBron just went lakers yeah what's ur ascuse now when he goes to the finals against Kyrie while he has lonzo ball let me ask u something Jordan bandwagon what Happened when Jordan left for baseball what was his record
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Rodman didnt make an All Star team with MJ because he was old and at the end of his career. Jordan actually didn't ask to draft Pippen. You got any proof?
LeBron went to the Lakers because he knows other stars will follow and he can create another superteam
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You can hate on this man, but you can't disrespect his game. He is in the discussion to be the greatest player of all time, and he's on his way to become the GOAT. If he wins this series in a miracle, then he SHALL be the goat in my book. He is scoring 40 points a night, and he's showing no signs of slowing down. Put some RESPECT on his name.
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE THESE STATS!?! I MEAN, LEBRON GOAT BUT 85+ ONLY? CHILL 2K!
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is this Jesus or something else....these stats
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Jesus isn’t a monkey
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Hey I’m the King about to drop a sick beat
So why don’t you listen in and have a seat
People say that watching me has been a treat
Let’s go back to Miami where I joined the elite
I won a pair of rings and no I didn’t cheat
And then people thought my prime was over when I left the Heat
But now with Cavs I’m always making a new feat
Another title this year would make my career even more complete
And I don’t have to give you every single deet
It doesn’t have to be neat
Just know that I’m the meat
YEET YEET YEET
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I like this poem
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I was aiming for a rap but I guess a poem is ok too
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You can’t spit
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Th difference between this card and the previous 3 Lebron Diamonds is miles apart. This card is unstoppable.
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Meeting you on draft day in '03 was the greatest moment of my life, taking that picture w/ u and telling u congrats. You looked me in the eyes & said, "Thank u. You'll grow up to become the greatest sports fanpage of all time, you shall be known as Bogotac". Thank u, Master.
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so 2k is risking their ovr system by assuming GSW are gonna win, this is some good motivation to win.
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This guy only has 5 stats that aren't 90+ and one of them is Intangibles...
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If the Cavs really come together as a team during this series and other players on the Cavs other than LeBron can pick up some slack and perform at their best, then I really think that the Warriors can win in 5
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If he wins the finals, surely he is the G.O.A.T.
LOOK AT HIS TEAMMATES!
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Finally my boy Lebron got what he deserves. I mean he is the greatest player in the league today.
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he carried a few garbage cans and a half eaten bag of potato chips to the finals
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What a king oh wait that's right
King of the GOATs
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lmao not yet
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it already happened he is the goat
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explain please lol
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9 finals in a row the stats dont lie lebron had alot worse teamates and he carries when lebron left cavs they won 26 games when jordan left bulls they lost 2 extra games lol jordan had alot better players and also shot alot more with a less of a feild goal percentage
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"a lot better players"
lebron has had either kyrie and love or wade and bosh for 7 of his finals runs. and you want to talk about carrying? in the 1987-88 season, Jordan won Regular Season MVP, DPOY, ASG MVP, and was Slam Dunk Contest champion, 1st-Team All-League, and 1st-Team All-Defensive. This will likely never be done again. Jordan didn't make the finals that year, however, because of his lack of help and stronger competition in the eastern conference.
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the stats don't lie, you're right. the east is clearly weaker throughout lebron's career: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DetlD51XUAASzru.jpg. this is a major part of his 8 consecutive finals (btw, no it isn't 9 in a row). he has faced weak comp in his own conference and a majority of the time can't get it done against stronger teams in the finals. he lost to a team with one all star on a team with 3 all stars including himself. lebron has had a super-team every year bar this one over his streak. the bulls got worse, the stats show this (stats don't lie). lebron was not the only player who left cleveland following that year. your last point is retarded and makes no sense, if you shoot more your percentage will get lower because there's more opportunities to miss.
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How can u blame LeBron for not having comp in the east lol this deserves it's own reply LeBron can't help people are trash on other teams he can't carry other teams and make them better to but most playoff teams in the east have 2 all stars much like Jordan except Jordan went up against old ass man LeBron is going up against young cats like giannis and jabari John wall and Beal the raptors LeBron has the Celtics this year if he stays in the east but if he goes lakers with kawhi and George what's ur excuse oh he had to join a super team brah Jordan didn't have to join a super team because he never left a super team lol ur so stupid this is to easy if u really want to talk hit me up on psn
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I do not blame Bron for low East comp. However, it is a fact, and that means it must be factored in when talking about his legacy. It is not his fault, but it is a fact.
"Jordan went up against old ass man"
Yeah totally right dude, Jordan never played against rookies/young players. Just cause they're old now doesn't mean they weren't every young lmao GTFO. Giannis and Jabari etc. will be old someday.
If he goes to Lakers yes its the second KD-like example of him bailing on his team to build a new superteam. Jordan played through some tough years at the beginning of his career but kept faith and didn't leave.
I would hit you up on PlayStation but I don't have one so just DM me here.
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Well time to ahut u down again he just went to lakers right now they have Kyle kuzma lonzo ball so u can not say he joined a super team he may have influenced others to join the lackers Jordan could also trust his gm to bring in other stars when the Cavs drafted poorly like very poorly and weren't spending what they could of during free agency
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It is 9 in a row even da kid gowie made a song called 9th year in ur one of those old heads who don't Know anything about LeBron ok LeBron has had superteam every year besides this one man Kyrie is hot trash LeBron proved that by going to the finals without Kyrie beating the Celtics lol Jordan didn't pass the ball look at the assist lol LeBron is 33 about to turn 34 and he's still dropping unbelievable stats was Jordan doing that? No he went to go play baseball Jordans only good at one sport if it wasn't for the money he might be playing football right now who knows also the more shots the more to miss theres also a chance to make them to lmfao u just rejected urself right there alright back to ur first comment every year LeBron went to the finals he had Wade , Bosh or Kyrie ,love what happened to his first finals appearance when he had to face a real super team in the Spurs 4 all starts ginobli Duncan kawhi and Parker u don't relise LeBron could of won dunk contests to lol hell John wall and Blake Griffin won it and they both didn't do that good of dunks
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You absolute fucknut it is 8 in a row, you and whoever Gowie is can look it up. Here:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2778201-lebron-james-reaches-nba-finals-for-8th-time-in-a-row-as-cavaliers-beat-celtics
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/columnist/jeff-zillgitt/2018/05/28/lebron-james-nba-finals-streak-granted-cleveland-cavaliers/649160002/
First up you called me an "old head". I'm 14 lmao.
Kyrie is "hot trash" despite being an All-Star every year he wasn't hurt ok then that point is too retarded to waste time on.
This Celtics team was missing both of their best players. With Kyrie/Hayward they likely would have won the series.
Jordan also played SG instead of SF. He played PG for a stretch of games at one point and averaged double-digit assists over that span.
DO YOUR FUCKING BASKETBALL RESEARCH AT AGE 33 AND 34 JORDAN WON NBA TITLES. HE WON AN MVP AT 33. YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANY OF THIS. STFU
If we're talking about dunking you are literally the only person on Earth who thinks LeBron is a better dunker than MJ. MJ had a higher vertical and also had the guts to enter dunk contests. You're last point is literally, "Well, LeBron maybe could have won something he never even entered so there."
I said LeBron has had a superteam every year over his current finals streak except this year, which is true. The 2007 Finals were not part of this streak.
If you knew anything about math, the more you shoot the lower your percentage. I literally have math behind me here I don't see how you debate this.
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Vertical has nothing to do with dunking lol LeBron is also taller he doesn't have to jump as high lol brah I want u to go back and watch Dominique Wilkins vs Jordan in the dunk contest there's a LeBron bias because no one wants LeBron to surpass Jordan ur 14 u have no idea what Jordan played like lol u wernt there for all the media outlets and 5 assists a game dude people are calling Westbrook a ballhog on 10 assists Jordan average half that
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"Vertical has nothing to do with dunking."
Goodbye. You are too retarded to argue with.
Westbrook is a ball hog because he only passes to pad his assist totals. Jordan was the main scorer, not passer
Do me a favor and look up @KaloneMarl on Twitter.
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U have to stop replying ur making urself look stupid let's begin LeBron gets screwed out of the Mvp alright LeBrons 9 straight would start in 2009 to 2018 I can teach u how to count if u would like Celtics got in the finals once after that 2008 season LeBron went to finals every year lol
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Read this thread buddy. If you want to send me a counter-argument I will read it. If we debating here, you gotta read the stuff the other says.
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I'm making myself look stupid yet you're the one who says vertical leap doesn't affect dunking, you think Bron made 9 finals in a row, and you can't understand basic math.
Google 2010 NBA finals. Bron wasn't in it.
He made the finals in
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kyire got dunked on by brogdon i dont remmember him doing that to lebron
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Kyrie dunked on Brogdon!? EXCUSE ME?! No one ever embarresses the GOAT
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He be dropping 70 a game in the future
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What are you talking about!? Brogdon is the best player of all-time
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oh hes had the best career because of what he's doing at 33 yrs old, mj wasn't doing this good in his old age
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Nah he just lead his team to the former best record; with a championship to boot. Not much tbh
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um dude he didnt lead a team jordan had pippen and rodman the best rebounder and a underated player lebron carried a team you can aruge that jordan was the star of the bulls sure but leading his team no no no he was not a leader he punched steve kurr for not listening to him that doesnt sound like good leadership skills to me
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I never said carried, I said "leaded", surely if it wasn't for Jordan they wouldn't be able to win the 1996 championship let alone the other 5. Sure he did punch Steve Kerr; but Steve punched back. Its stupid but this led them to having better chemistry; so much to the point he had trust in Steve to hit the last shot against the Jazz. Nuff said
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That’s be pretty cool, but still have yet to do it with mychal and klay/nance sr. and nance jr
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Oh my God LMFAO in dead ask iguodala about Bron's defense lol get outta here
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I don't think Iguodala would've talked about Lebron being unable to stop Jason Terry in the 2010-11 finals tho, or the fact that Lebron was ranked 435th for individual defensive rating from January through to March. explain that?
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LeBron is at best an average defender. If you want proof I have a ton of it so dont bother arguing
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Well we're already arguing on a different Paige lmfao an average deffender is a guy like Kyrie and horrible defender is harden LeBron is Kenny omega he's the elite and the king
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[] KobeBetterThanEveryoneElse4Ever 3 weeks ago
Have I mentioned Jordan played with better teams against worst competition and had all time great coaches while LeBron has had no help for most of his career and has had absolute shit coaches and management against some of the greatest teams the league will ever see?
LeBron from 2003-2010 had one all-star, and that was the meh Mo Williams.
Big Z was okay
Larry Hughes is overrated
Daniel fucking Gibson XD
Varejao lmao
Old Shaq...
And these are some of his best teammates from those years, his competition from 2003-2010:
Peak Kobe And his dominant Lakers teams
KG Timberwolves
Stacked Celtics
An OP Spurs team
The godly Pistons
D Wade/Shaq Heat
The Hornets with peak CP3
The Mavs with peak Dirk
The Suns with peak Nash and co.
The Magic
LeBron had to guard Kobe, Melo, Paul Pierce, and was being guarded by the likes of Bruce Bowen. Definitely better than Terry Teagle, Paul Westphal, and John Starks.
2007 Finals: carried a 50 win team into the final season against a dominant Spurs team, and was swept. Howeve, you can't really blame him for this loss, the Spurs were an incredible team.
From 2011-2014, LeBron joined the Heat as we all know. Of course, he did get help, but Wade and Bosh were on the decline. I also should say that the Cavs went from nearly a 70 win team to the worst team in the league for 4 years. When Jordan left Chicago, they obviously weren't as good, but they still won 50 games.
LeBrons help:
Declining Bosh (still solid)
Declining Wade (still good, but not as good)
Outside of these two the rest of the Miami Heat roster was a team set to go 15-67.
LeBron had more competition in these 4 years than Jordan had his whole career
Still Kobe
Still the Spurs
OKC
The underrated Mavs team
Memphis
Indiana
The Knicks
The Magic in 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 still had Dwight Howard
LeBron also had to guard the likes of Carmelo, PG13, KD, and Kawhi Leonard
2011 Finals: now there is no case for LeBron here, he did choke, but saying this Mavs team was not good is stupid. They had Dirk, Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, Tyson Chandler and a good supporting cast. And if you hold just this Finals against James, then I can hold MJs losses NOT EVEN IN THE FINALS to the Pistons on him as well. Stupid double standard.
2012 Finals: LeBron destroys Thunder and gets his first ring. Also, 45-15-5 against Boston in game 6 to redeem is career in the East Finals. This was LeBrons greatest game ever.
2013 Finals: LeBrons career was not saved by Ray Allen, Ray simply hit am amazing three. LeBron was amazing all series and was the reason Miami won.
2014 Finals: Kawhi did not clamp LeBron lmfao. LeBron shot a Finals career high 57% from the field and a finals career high 51% from 3. Wade and Bosh were awful by their standards all series and LeBron had to carry this team to their only win.
And then LeBron comes home. I will also add that Miami went from a championship contender to a lottery team, and Cleveland went from an afterthought to a championship favorite.
LeBrons help:
Kevin Love (way more ass than he was supposed to be after being traded from Minnesota)
Kyrie Irving (The best player LeBron has ever played with)
Besides these two, LeBron has had more help, but not enough to really make the Cavs a playoff team without him.
LeBrons competition:
The most stacked team ever in Golden State
The Spurs
OKC
Houston
Boston
Toronto (lmao rapes them every year)
Let's realize that the best players Jordan had to guard at his position were Clyde Drexler and Reggie Miller during the 90s, while LeBron has to guard KD, PG13, Giannis, Kawhi, and Gordon Hayward. Also keep in mind Jordan had incredible coaching and LeBron has the shittiest coach I have ever seen in Lue.
2015 Finals: LeBron almost wins the series by himself without Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love, and he would have won with them.
2016 Finals: LeBron completes a 3-1 comeback for the first time in Finals history... blah blah blah, Jordan never did this cause he was never down because he never played a 73 win team with little help. Also, anyone who says Kyrie won the series is gay.
2017 Finals: Did anyone expect LeBron to beat this team? With KD going off this team is unbeatable.
2018 Finals: It takes 4 all-stars, 3 referees, and one of the worst teams LBJ has ever been on for the Warriors to win game 1. CooL.
As you can see, Jordan has had way more help than LeBron, way better coaching, And played way worse competition than LeBron has. LeBron has overcome the odds so many times, continued to improve every year, and continues to stay on top over all the great players in the league.
Now, what I'm not saying is that Jordan isn't great, but when comparing him to LeBron, it is hard to say Jordan is better or more valuable than LeBron is.
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too bad i switched to fortnite haha nice impossible card to get but will be god even if the difficulty was on hall of fame but on the arcade mode he bout to go 50-50
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Hey everyone i have a 97 Diamond All star lebron up on the market for 80k buynow on xbox.this is the 5th time i have relisted him,any chance anyone could buy him please!?
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Lebron is the GOAT and my favorite player ever all you lebron haters watch him actually play dont listen to what the media says they know nothing watch him actually play and watch just how much he dominates and takes over the game like cmon 51 points against this warrriors team jordan cant do the things he can do
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LeBron isn't GOAT yet...even though he's the BOAT.
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Best Of All Time.
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even tho you dont think he is goat yet but you think he will be later i dont argue with those cause atleast they think he will be goat
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Lol no. #2, arguably #1, I still think MJ will always be the GOAT in my eyes, but there's no way to truly measure greatness. But I believe, that by the end of his career, LeBron will have MORE TOTAL ACCOLADES than MJ did when he retired.
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Well we can all at least admit LeBron is top 3 right?
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im not going to @ u instead im going to hit that reply button rings barley even matter there are 9 players with more rings than jordan are u saying there all better then jordan? no? then i guess we have have to look at stats and there teams dont we well lebron beats jordans in blocks, rebounds, assists, playoff points the list goes on when jordan beats lebron in steals and regular season points but lebron is still only 33 and he wants to play till round 40 so points is gonna be broken the only thing jordan is gonna have over lebron is steals which are around even to lebrons blocks when jordan played with pippen rodman and gilmore when lebron played with kevin love and kyrie this late in his career and still went to finals without kyrie and if you even try to bring up the weak east ill shut you down because jordan had the knicks who only had ewing and phenox who only had barkely and in the finals jazz had 2 all stars when the bulls have 3 lebron has 2 all stars him n love and still went to the finals
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Are u high or just stupid curry has been really good for 4 years Lbj has been really good for 15 years has led god awful teams to the Finals and all Curry has done was win MVP 2x in a row so how tf is Lbj not better than curry
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Exactly only people who suck off warriors players in their fucking freetime would have the guts to say something so fucking retarded.
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Lets us make a statement if you are a GSW fan and live anywhere else but california and have liked them before Stephen Curry was there you are a BANDWAGON
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This is a LOCKER CODE!!!!!
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Why u gota lie tho.. just tried it
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Smfh it took 4 all stars 3 refs and 1 J.r smith to stop the King...
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Show 15 replies...that 51 points was incredible
Lol comment of the year
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No prob
So right
Ur a queer
The same refs that saved him from Indiana?
And boston
kobe beat 4 allstars 3 refs and kwame brown
And btw Kobe never beat 3 refs or 4 all stars
Kwame wasn’t that bad, he just wasn’t what a 1 pick should be, and if you’re talking about against the Pistons he did it with Shaq whereas Brown has Love.
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It took 29 points last night to show that LeBron is all they have lololol, I told y'all if he don't drop 50+ a game he gonna get swept, that Iso ball isn't gonna last against GS's team basketball
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and it won't even be close
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Show 16 replies...and the series wont even be close to lol
When he carries the team to OT in GS, I think thats pre good
Then when they got to OT they lost by 10
Wrong lol
if you think warriors will sweep your stupid
How? They only won one game last year and they had Kyrie then. The Cavs got worse this year so a sweep wouldn’t surprise me.
kyrie didnt do good last years finals did you watch i sure did watched every painful second of it being a cavs fan
The Warriors got worse aswell.
Their record got worse...but I think they got better. The only thing that stopped them from going 80-2 was injuries.
lmao
A sweep isn’t impossible
damn
we never know
They got nearly swept last year with kyrie, there is no way they are going to win, unless the warriors have major injuries
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Show 12 replies...true, and the team this year is worse than last year
Kyrie was cold for most of serious, and George Hill will do a better job on Curry... Not saying the Cavs are better w/o Kyrie tho.
true that
i think it was because he wanted out
Who’s he LBJ, or Kyrie
I'm guessing that he is talking about kyrie
But it probably applies to both, @gobles & @GawdsHawtDawgs.
just saying, if he does pull it off
I 100% agree, if he does do it then he’s the goat, and im not a Lebron fan
factss
dumbest shit I've heard all day
The Cavs r the Avengers and Golden State is Thanos
Dr. Stephen Strange (George Hill) travels in time to see alternate futures, where the Cavs vs Warriors plays out. He sees 14,000,605 alternate outcomes.
Lebron (Iron Man): How many do we win?
Hill: 1
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Show 15 replies...So is Starlord J.R Smith by he’s dumb asf
basically
Cavs in 7
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you sound stupid because the avengers are going to kill thanos in Avengers 4 so
this is the 4th time they've met in the finals, sooooooo
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So what different teams fat fuck
Players*
Yea dipshit, they have SpiderMan movies and Black Panther movies coming out so they have to beat him.
So the cavs are beating Celtics you sound dumb as shit LeBron dropped 51 in warriors home courts and forced overtime blame J.R Smith
Warriors*
No, I don't think they win. However, when Dr. Strange said he saw one way that they win that could mean that they bring in another superhero to defeat Thanos (Captain Marvel). They also lose in the movie where half the universe dies which could also mean that it was all part of Strange's plan this entire time. In the case of the NBA, if Cleveland loses they are gonna have to bring in help and then maybe they win. They need to lose in order to know how much help they really need. If you get this
LeBrin dripped 51 and forced overtime with drunk ass J.R Smith and drug addict Kevin Love so plz stfu
Fucking idiot the avengers will still beat Thanos so fuck u have HIV whore
mama there goes that man
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Show 2 replies...Iguodala to Curry. Back to Iguodala. Goes up for the layup-OHH BLOCKED BY JAMES...
You need a clutch player to get you a chase down block in The Finals, Momma, There goes that man!
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Take this L cuz he got swept. and camet to LA lol
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Show 1 reply...i said if smfh
Considering the coaching MJ had vs LeBron in his career I have to agree. But for his greatest accomplishment Idk.. being the first team in NBA Finals history to come back from a 3-1 deficit, against the best regular season team in NBA history and getting a triple double in that game 7 is hard to top.
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Show 3 replies...yeah, but taking his team which is pretty much just lebron and no other help (besides kevin love but hes injured atm maybe) then it would be one huge accomplishment
no doubt one of the biggest in NBA history
facts
It's over, Lebron James is Over MVP. I got this card in 2k18
lil pump
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no need to be sorry, I agree.
Im a warriors fan and I really don't like Lebron but I agree
but he isn't goat now.....not suprise tho. Where Lebron fans are going now?
He already is. The fact that this team got to the Finals is just as suprising
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Show 10 replies...if it didn't get to the finals it would be surprising, who in the east should be able to stop the cavs? victor oladipo? the craptors? the rookie team without their 2 best players (almost beat lebron)? giannis? the wizards? the heat??? the only team i see beating the cavs are the 76ers, WITH EMBIID, in 7, and simmons has to knock down some jumpers
Do you realize how bad the Cavs have been? Lebron is the only reason they're even in the playoffs.
the cavs are the best team in the east
Because of Lebron
how is it surprising that he made the finals then
I think you're missing the point
actually im not, the cavs are the best team in the east, how is it surprising that they beat a half injured team
but winning it will be even more surprising
Yeah. Would be up there with Pistons sweeping the Lakers
what they didn't
If he wins one game he's the greatest player of all time, because he just beat 4 superstars with trash on his team.
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Show 1 reply...wtf no? klay and draymond are stars, not superstars, just winning 1 game doesn't give you the goat status wtf
Well if buddy hield can lead the kings to a championship next year, then we’ll have a new guy in the discussion.
No.
It’s not going to happen no matter how much you wanna have sex with him.
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Show 24 replies...youre an idiot
im not just taking him taking his (not very good) team into the playoffs into consideration into why he is the goat, he has done so much in his career, and to do all of this in his 15th season is just enough to pretty much solidify him as the greatest, or atleast literally RIGHT there with jordan
and no i dont wanna have sex with him, tf
He is great and he is one of the greats. I don’t mean any disrespect to HIM, but I’m tired of hearing things that the Lebron fans would say right now daydreaming about their chances against the warriors. It’s not gonna happen.
im just saying IF he does, then he will pretty much be the GOAT. not saying that he will for sure win it all though. only time will tell what happens
Chance: slim to none....
Cavs gonna beat the Warriors, I ain't even that much of a LeBron fan. I'm calling it now, LeBron and the Cavaliers>KD, Curry, Klay, Draymond and the Warriors
You thought
Who going to guard curry and klay and LeBron is the only person that can guard kd that leaves warriors wide open to win the title
I agree, also Team Japan is better than Team USA basketball.
It's gonna happen, I don't care, Cavs are winning, your downvotes aren't gonna change a thing, Cavs are winning.
LeBron can't play d like he used to any way that is his last season with the team
Lol nah, Cavs are gonna win the series.
You thought
That shit is why Warriors lost in 2016, don't you motherfuckers learn anything?
Biggs we already have a 2-0 lead we will win sweep of win in 5
Yeah and that attitude is why you lost in 2016, again, you motherfuckers get way too cocky for your own good and end up losing, that's the same reason you dumb motherfuckers almost lost against the Rockets.
Bitch we winning no matter what and that was 2016
Oh yeah, see? Don't learn from mistakes, ever. You motherfuckers so goddamn retarded.
Nigga we won last night so shut the duck up bitch
Couldn't care less, you didn't win the series and you won't.
Yes we will
What? Lose 4 games straight?
We sweeped yall
Not a Cavs fan.
*Think
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I’m sorry. You’re wrong bud.
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according to your logic, dirk is the goat cuz he won a championship with literally no one, against the miami heat
don't tell me that im a lebron hater, i seriously want him to win this chip and get the goat status, imo this is the last chance he has in his career, if he loses he ends up with the same amount of finals losses as mjs finals wins so yeah
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Show 2 replies...not even gonna explain why him winning isnt the only reason he will be a goat, ive already said it somewhere in the replies to this comment
in the same amount of time, mj has better stats, more accomplishments and don't even try to talk about mj having a better team
im w you he carried his whole team to the finals with out kyrie and others
he stayed loyal
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that is the dumbest thing ever
Lebron wil still be in the league a few more years though
Nib wha
So Horry>Bron?
spoiler alert: Warriors sweep
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It was common sense lol idk why I got downvoted
yea after game 1 it was kinda obvious
it was obvious before the series even started
sadly that will not happen
Sadly it happened
sadly i was dumb
It was too obvious
eh LeBron to Spurs
trash besides Kawhi
this is basically one of the few times i'll agree with you
Murray? Danny? Aldridge?
trash, slightly less trash, average
lmao damn but we will see him going to 76ers would also be great
hes coming to Boston and I'll have to accept it
Why would LeBron go to the Celtics if the reason Kyrie was to go there was to get away from him? y'all niggas crazy
I'm sure Kyrie would get over it
no way
Lol what's funny is none of the teams ya'll mentioned got LeBron.
I cant see how Lebron and the bum squad can overcome this all star team. I mean it as no disrespect but his supporting cast is old trash, he cpuld could legit average 50 and still lose. Cavs are so ass on defense, GS will prob hang 120 on them every game.
I wanna see Korver switch on KD just one time lollll
this cavs you will see at 9pm will not be the same
we'll see