'18 Pau Gasol
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December 27th, 2018Height
7'0" (213cm)Weight
250lbs (113kg)Age
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PauDynamic Duo
95 Kobe BryantPlays
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95 Overall
90 Outside scoring +2
- 96 Open shot mid +2
- 95 Contested shot mid +2
- 79 Off dribble shot mid
- 86 Open shot 3pt +4
- 75 Contested shot 3pt
- 54 Off dribble shot 3pt
- 93 Shot IQ +6
- 90 Free throw
- 90 OffensiveOff. consistency +8
78 Athleticism
- 66 Speed
- 59 Acceleration
- 65 Vertical
- 89 Strength
- 95 Stamina
- 90 Hustle
- 82 Overall durability
94 Inside scoring
- 96 Shot close
- 95 Standing layup
- 88 Driving layup
- 90 Standing dunk
- 70 Driving dunk
- 50 Contact dunk
- 90 Draw foul
- 95 Post control
- 95 Post hook
- 96 Post fadeaway
- 95 Hands
67 Playmaking
- 53 Ball control
- 73 Passing accuracy
- 76 Passing vision
- 93 Passing IQ
- 48 Speed with ball
88 Defending
- 92 On-ball defensedef. IQ
- 95 Low post defensedef. IQ
- 94 Pick & roll defensedef. IQ
- 95 Help defensedef. IQ
- 45 Lateral quickness
- 75 Pass perception
- 95 Reaction time
- 67 Steal
- 89 Block
- 89 Shot contest
- 95 DefensiveDef. consistency
92 Rebounding +1
- 89 Offensive rebound +3
- 93 Defensive rebound
- 94 Boxout
- 95 Potential
- 90 Intangibles
- 3814 Total attributesattr. +25
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Kobe Bryant
Nickname: Kobe
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Pau Gasol
Nickname: Pau
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Fun fact:
In the LA ‘09 and ‘10 chip years Pau led the team in win shares not Kobe
He also carried Kobe in the fourth quarters both years
Kobe never won shit without a top 5 big man to carry him.
Who’s better prime Pau or prime Marc what y’all think
I say Marc
Marc won DPOY, but Pau won 2 rings
Also as a Spurs fan, I gotta go with Pau
As a Spurs fan born in SA i agree but my dad absolutely hates Pau for the Spurs and has been begging for the Spurs to trade him lmao
Show 1 reply...The rings argument is horrible; Pau played with Kobe, that's why he has two rings.
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Marc played with Mike Conley (underappreciated star point guard), Tony Allen (One of the most tenacious perimeter defenders of all time), Rudy Gay (underrated scorer) for half a season then was traded and received Tayshaun Prince from the Pistons, and Zach Randolph (One of the most underappreciated PFs of the past decade). This team was also one of the best defensive teams of our era, Tony Allen played with a defensive rating at 98, with 4.1 defensive win shares during that year, which capped off his most productive season. As well Mike Conley had a defensive rating of 100, with 4.7 defensive win shares. Z-bo was an all star and averaged 15, and 11.
Pau's team's starpower consisted of Kobe and Pau. The only other player near 'star' level was Andrew Bynum who averaged 14.7 ppg, and 8.2 rpg during their championship stretch, which is pretty mediocre for a 30 mpg starting 7'0 center. Lamar Odom was on the team as well and averaged good numbers but he was a bonafide 6 man for their team, and didn't push the needle as much as Kobe and Pau did alone.
Marc had far better widespread talent, and boasted a historic defensive unit, whereas Kobe and Pau were a dynamic enough duo to win a championship of their own greatness. Just because Pau had Kobe doesn't signify his rings aren't as valuable towards this argument.
I say Marc cause he made first team all NBA once
Show 1 reply...Pau by a lot actually. He was a top 10/15 player at his peek.
Marc was first team so he was top 3-10
Show 54 replies...Lol weakest argument ever.... Like I previously said, first team doesn't really indicate that you are a top 5 player. No one would say that Lillard should be ranked higher than Curry, Westbrook or Giannis
Never said he was top 5, and ‘18 Lillard > ‘18 Westbrook
Marc was never a top 3-10 player in the league. Dont matter how much you try to spin things around. It's just not true
Yes he was he was eighth in MVP shares in ‘15
Joakim Noah was 4th in MVP polls one year, so that must mean he's better than Pau and Marc combined
Actually an otherwise fking awful Bulls team with 10 games of awful D Rose, 23 games of Deng, 14 point inefficient Jimmy, 14 point inefficient Boozer and Augustin so yeah there is a very good argument for Joakim > them
In his prime he might’ve been but tf you mean combined that makes zero sense
Joachim was a better defender, passer, and just as good of a rebounder in his prime than both of them, and he led an otherwise pretty bad Bulls team to the PO, that wouldn’t be much of a stretch
Waoow one measly stat that proves absolutely nothing. Ask anyone you want, Pau was the better player in the NBA and with the National team. I can't believe you are still stuck on this honestly. Look at their accolades and stats.
Kid actually shut the fuck up, that shows that he was top ten and you were wrong don’t try and be a smart ass.
The stats don’t show Paus sub par defense, but do however show his inflated numbers on awful Hawks teams
Ok now you're just trolling and it's sad because you can't come up with a single valid argument. I am 30 btw and have watched more basketball than you will in your entire life. Pau is a national icon here on the same level as Nadal, Alonso or Iniesta. So don't try to come at me with your pathetic shit
thats cool, im 42 and live in my mom's basement.
Well you should probably find another place to live.
I’m pathetic but you’re lying about your age on 2kmtcentral ok pal
Why would I even lie idiot? Like i said a month ago, "go and get some friends. You have a toxic mentality that won't be good for your future"
Peace
You’d lie to make yourself look smarter, no adult is playing fking 2k unless they do it casually or for a living
Video games aren't just for children, you never know some1's situation. 30 seems farfetched but if he says so, who are we to assume
I don't know why it seems unrealistic. I have no kids and love the NBA. 2K is the best NBA game and I have a decent job that allows me to grind a couple of hours per day. Also, since when being 30 means I am smarter? I know a lot of teenagers that are vastly smarter than me. This kid sadly isn't... But really, seek some help and find some friends. It can only benefit you
Even if you don’t agree with my basketball opinions, you don’t know who the fuck I am, stop pretending
I’ve had all A+’s since the sixth grade (I don’t care if you don’t believe me) which is in no way possible worse than your grades. I have friends as with every other capable human on planet earth
If adults weren’t considered to be smarter than kids than why are at least 99% of all doctors, lawyers and literally everything else adults and not children?
Have heard of Child Labor laws and regulations?
Being smart as nothing to do with age. The things you get growing up are wisdom, experience and opportunities to showcase your talents in the workplace. There are plenty of young people much much smarter than adults, they just haven't finished polishing their skills/knowledge.
I don't agree with your basketball CLAIMS, I have zero interest in your OPINIONS, as far fetched as they might be.
Peace and go Grizzlies
Deandre Jordan was an All-NBA first teamer, the crop of centers in the NBA has been pretty weak as of the last decade
Marc was clearly far better don't compare him to Deandre
Then don't use All NBA as an indicator boyo
Bruh Deandre only got it because his team won
Deandre got it cuz he was the best center by ur claims
I never ever said Deandre was the best
U said Marc got first so he was top 3-10, so that means Deandre was top 3-10 player in the league lol
Big difference my god lmao
Deandre was much worse on both sides of the ball, and was the third best player on a 2nd round team while Marc led a much less talented team as the best player to the WCF
Much less talented team? That team had talent lol, Marc/Z-Bo/Gay/Allen/Conley. Also they beat the Clippers who were historically a bad matchup for their Grit n grind style, and then the young Thunder who had just failed to live up to expectations the previous year. They eventually got blown out by the Spurs, that WCF appearance really meant nothing for their franchise besides disappointment.
Pau on the otherhand made it to the big stage, even as a #2 being one of the most integral players for the Lakers and winning 2 championships alongside Kobe
I say pau better overall, but Marc has aged better
Pau with the Bulls as a 34/35 averaged consecutive double double seasons, at the 36 with SAS he was the most efficient 3 point shooter in the league, despite not taking enough attempts averaging .9 3 pt makes on 1.6 attempts per game.
U right but these past couple of seasons I thought pau fell off a little bit whereas Marc had been doing decent (exception with last year without Conley)
Pau's 38 lmao, he's a 7 footer whose played this far, also he's been battling knee injuries at his advanced age
Speaking of which Pau is back after 2 months
Eh he's pretty much at that retired stage, but we need him for bench minutes i guess
Are you guys starting lamarcus at center or someone like Jakob poetel? Also what are your thought on the Derozan trade? I think both sides won (although giving up Danny green kinda hurt). I don’t know cause I don’t watch the spurs. I’m a magic fan but tend to root for the spurs in games that don’t concern the magic or heat (I like the heat too)
Gregg changes it up per game, but usually LA clocks in as a C and you'll see Dante Cunningham starting at PF. The trade was awful, Danny Green was a big piece in our defensive scheme, and that's hole no one has been able to fill quite yet. Also we lost a shooter with Danny, currently forcing Demar to shoot 3s is alright, but I still wish we had a key cog on defense, picking up an oldhead vet like Tony Allen would be nice
Mehh first team can really fluctuate depending on your team's success. Pau has been an essential part of two championship runs and imo deserved to be the Finals MVP vs the Celtics. Plus he put Spain on his back many times winning the WC, Eurocup and Silver Medals
I said who’s a better player, having a chip can indicate to how good you are but it doesn’t make you better.
Did winning with LA in ‘02 make Mitch Richmond better than a 4 point per game scorer?
No, he was still a four point per game scorer, nothing more, nothing less
Pau was great but Kobe was the leader of those teams, Marc lead a team to the WCF in a much harder conference
The teams Pau played in ‘09 were the Jazz, the Rockets (wherein Pau had no answer for Yao Ming and almost lost to the Rockets in seven games, despite the Rockets second best player in T Mac being injured), and a poor Nuggets team carried by Melo
Pau didn’t play particularly well against the Cs either
1) Never said anything about a role player winning a chip, don't understand why you would bring that up since Pau was always the best or second best player for his team when winning a title
2) Pau was the best Lakers player in that Finals vs the Celtics
3) You still didn't comment about his impact on the National team which actually shows the big difference in skills and impact between the Gasol brothers.
4) Marc was part of a great defensive team that featured three 17ppg players (including Marc) and solid role players.
5) Pau showed that he could be a focal point for 4 franchises and redefined his game several times
6) I am Spanish and have followed their entire careers. Everyone here will tell you that Prime Pau was easily better than Prime Marc
Wasn't that the Nuggets team with AI, Jr, Kenyon and Marcus Camby tho?
AI didn't play and neither did Camby, and Martin averaged 13 inefficient points, so no
o ight, Jr GOAT tho
it is bette paur to say that someone who sees it every summer as it destroys 90% of national teams, someone who has seen how he has won 2 rings, 1 roy, 4 best teams of the nba, 6 all-star, acb mvp, world cup mvp, 2 times mvp of the eurobasket, top scorer in the history of the eurobasket, reach 20,000 points, be one of the best in the history of the nba and one of the only 4 players with 20,000 points, 11,000 rebounds, 3,500 assists and 1,900 plugs marc is a beast but pau is a god I repeat it says someone who is Spanish and sees it year after year destroy with the spanish team after a great season in the nba
Graciiiiiias. This guy doesn't know anything besides the NBA. Wouldn't shock me if he ignored that both Pau and Marc were ACB league MVPs before coming to the NBA
Show 12 replies...I don’t pay attention to euroleagues because I don’t give a fuck about euroleagues
I already knew that. You probably never watched Pau play for the Grizzlies.. Besides your only argument to justify that Marc was a better player is that he made 1st team All NBA which is just stupid. But thanks for making me laugh at your ignorance ;)
I could and have compared team success and numbers but whatever. I’m not gonna fking talk to someone who is ignorant enough to say Ray Allen carried teams he wasn’t even the best player on
Jajajajaja are you this nashfan kid that just writes dumb things?
How can Ray Allen (24/4/4 and 4 time Allstar with the Sonics) NOT BE the best player compared to (16/6/2 and a 1 time Allstar) Rashard Lewis... Are you really this into denial?
Side note : I haven't seen another person agree with your statement on both topics. When everyone disapproves with your opinions, it might be time to let it go and accept your mistakes. Kisses
Lmao you clearly didn’t look at what I said he wasn’t the best player in ‘05, the only year they made the PO
"I’m not gonna fking talk to someone who is ignorant enough to say Ray Allen carried teams he wasn’t even the best player on"
Where does it say 05??
And besides when did 20/5/1 in the regular season and 17/5/1 in the playoffs (not being doubled teamed like Ray was) became better than 24/4/4 and 26/4/4 in the playoffs??
One season where they makes he playoffs outweighs the seasons they didn’t, and Rashards numbers are obviously going to be down when he spent his rookie and younger years there while Ray only spent his prime
Rashard was for sure being double teamed aswell you don’t have to be that good to be doubled
Those are their respective prime years idiot
No they aren’t those are their ‘05 averages
1) Rashard was not double teamed as much as Ray due to his lesser abilities to create off the dribble. Ray was also coming off a ton of screen plays which attracted the help of other defenders.
2) Ray was way better EVERY season that they played together. Doesn't matter if you try to to believe otherwise. Stats, eye test, peers recognition and accolades proves it.
3) Lets look at the '05 season that you bring up so much:
Player A : 20/5/1 and 17/5/1 in the Playoffs
Player B : 24/4/4 and 26/4/4 in the Playoffs
Every person with a normally functioning brain will take Player B and it's not even close. Rashard shot a bit better in the regular season but was atrocious in the Playoffs.
Rashard has been a very solid player but Ray produced a HOF type carreer and (before Curry/Klay came around) was considered the greatest shooter of all time.
Case closed. I won't reply on this topic anymore
How did this conversation turn into who is better Ray Allen or Rashard Lewis?
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